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Previously on "Using an Umbrella? CHECK YOUR TAX CODE!!"

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  • hobnob
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    Just to echo the importance of this, I had to swap to a new umbrella at the start of April (due to the agency enforcing a PSL). It took a while to sort out the paperwork, so I had 2 weeks with no money, then I got paid for 3 weeks at once. A few days later, I had an email from HMRC to say that my tax code had changed, but I assumed that this was due to the new financial year and/or the new umbrella company. So I wasn't too concerned, and I put this in my procrastination pile.

    When I got paid for week 4, it was significantly lower than expected, so I belatedly checked my tax code. Basically, HMRC had assumed that my payment for week 3 would be the same every week, so my annual income would be 3 times the actual amount! Based on that projection, my personal allowance had dropped to zero, so they gave me a tax code that started with a K:
    Tax codes: If you have a K in your tax code - GOV.UK

    After I saw that, it was easy enough to change my expected income, and my payment for week 5 was higher than normal (because the PAYE was reduced to balance out week 4).

    If I hadn't done anything, I don't know whether HMRC would have automatically adjusted the tax code again (after a series of lower weekly payments), but it's best to stay on top of this. I.e. if you get an email from HMRC about your tax code changing, check it immediately.
    NB The email notification won't tell you the new code, so you'll have to log into their website to see it.

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  • lucyclarityumbrella
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    And if you don't check it - there is always a possibility of ending up with a tax bill at the end of the year!

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  • eek
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    Adding this now I've found it

    The following are emergency tax codes
    • 1257 W1 (weekly pay)
    • 1257 M1 (monthly pay)
    • 1257 X (emergency we've lost the previous figures so don't have a starting figure to work from)

    The following codes are overrides because you have another job that results in you being paid at this level
    BR All your income from this job or pension is taxed at the basic rate (usually used if you’ve got more than one job or pension)
    D0 All your income from this job or pension is taxed at the higher rate (usually used if you’ve got more than one job or pension)
    D1 All your income from this job or pension is taxed at the additional rate (usually used if you’ve got more than one job or pension)
    SBR All your income from this job or pension is taxed at the basic rate in Scotland (usually used if you’ve got more than one job or pension)
    SD0 All your income from this job or pension is taxed at the intermediate rate in Scotland (usually used if you’ve got more than one job or pension)
    SD1 All your income from this job or pension is taxed at the higher rate in Scotland (usually used if you’ve got more than one job or pension)
    SD2 All your income from this job or pension is taxed at the top rate in Scotland (usually used if you’ve got more than one job or pension)
    CBR All your income from this job or pension is taxed at the basic rate in Wales (usually used if you’ve got more than one job or pension)
    CD0 All your income from this job or pension is taxed at the higher rate in Wales (usually used if you’ve got more than one job or pension)
    CD1 All your income from this job or pension is taxed at the additional rate in Wales (usually used if you’ve got more than one job or pension)
    And these codes do exactly what they say on the tin - they don't give you any starting allowance and tax all income at 20%, 40% or 45% regardless of the fact you may go into the next band.

    If your payslip contains one of these codes be very careful over what you are being paid especially if you are on a BR or 0 code.

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  • lucyclarityumbrella
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    Will that coding notice change only be generated if HMRC are made aware that the circumstances have changed/the current one is incorrect?

    If not, how else would they know to send a change?
    I believe it would only be issued, if HMRC can see two incomes, if it is another PAYE income then this should be spotted by HMRC when it is reported and hence will kick out a notice. If it is another income and HMRC are not notified until the end of the tax year then nothing an umbrella can do. The individual would have to notify HMRC to see if an adjustment was required.

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  • ladymuck
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    Will that coding notice change only be generated if HMRC are made aware that the circumstances have changed/the current one is incorrect?

    If not, how else would they know to send a change?
    I think that's where the "if needs be" aspect of Lucy's post comes from...

    HMRC won't change a code if no-one tells them of a change in circumstances.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by lucyclarityumbrella View Post
    Absolutely from the P45, dependent on which statement is ticked on the starter checklist, dictates what tax code to use to submit the first payment, after that we would normally expect to see a coding notice change from HMRC to amend if needs be.

    Will that coding notice change only be generated if HMRC are made aware that the circumstances have changed/the current one is incorrect?

    If not, how else would they know to send a change?

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  • lucyclarityumbrella
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    Originally posted by cojak View Post
    Which includes notification of the tax code I guess?
    Absolutely from the P45, dependent on which statement is ticked on the starter checklist, dictates what tax code to use to submit the first payment, after that we would normally expect to see a coding notice change from HMRC to amend if needs be.

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  • cojak
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    Originally posted by lucyclarityumbrella View Post
    No umbrella company should process any payments without a P45 or a signed starter checklist
    Which includes notification of the tax code I guess?

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  • lucyclarityumbrella
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    No umbrella company should process any payments without a P45 or a signed starter checklist

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by cojak View Post
    If you are moving from from outside to inside IR35 and you are going to use an Umbrella, tell them of your current tax code in writing and make sure that that you check your Tax Code as soon as possible!!.

    Generally, when people move from one employer to another, their P45 or P60 goes with them and the tax code is on there. Your circumstances may mean that you didn’t hand your P45 or P60 to the Umbrella when you switched from your Ltd.

    If this is the case, unless you tell them, the Umbrella will place you on the Emergency tax code at 20% - YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FUTURE.

    Ultimately it is your responsibility to get it right, so contact your Umbrella AND HMRC ASAP, then this may only be 1 months back tax that you owe.
    or even a single month (month 2 / 3) with slightly less money as things are corrected.

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  • cojak
    started a topic Using an Umbrella? CHECK YOUR TAX CODE!!

    Using an Umbrella? CHECK YOUR TAX CODE!!

    If you are moving from outside to inside IR35 and you are going to use an Umbrella, tell them of your current tax code in writing and make sure that that you check your Tax Code as soon as possible!!.

    Generally, when people move from one employer to another, their P45 or P60 goes with them and the tax code is on there. Your circumstances may mean that you didn’t hand your P45 or P60 to the Umbrella when you switched from your Ltd.

    If this is the case, unless you tell them, the Umbrella will place you on the Emergency tax code at 20% - YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FUTURE.

    Ultimately it is your responsibility to get it right, so contact your Umbrella AND HMRC ASAP, then this may only be 1 months back tax that you owe.

    See here for more information https://www.gov.uk/tax-codes/tell-hm...hange-tax-code

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