Tend to use VB.net in VS, good dev system. Never realised how good until I started having to use Eclipse for Android stuff. Various freeware versions of VS although assume you need to have licenced version to release commercial progs.
PS Off topic but I still use VB6 for quickly knocking up little utils for my own use. It works fine on Windows 7 if you do run as administrator.
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Previously on "Anyone used PowerBasic or QuickBasic for Windows dev?"
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You want a proper requirements visualisation / prototyping tool. Like:
Balsamiq Mockups | Balsamiq
Or:
http://www.axure.com/
Or:
iRise Home
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Visual Studio Express is the obvious choice, end of.
Drag 'n' Drop winforms, costs nothing, can put a bit of VB.NET or C# code behind events to give the prototype a bit of life.
Simples.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostSas, does Delphi still exist? That would've been a good tool for this.
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Originally posted by Platypus View PostAh.... IIRC the UI style of PowerBasic is a bit behind the times, and I think you have to buy an add-on to get a GUI screen builder. Read their website carefully...
EDIT: Actually, Visual Fox Pro has a good GUI builder
Visual Fox Poo
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostNo I just want a way of showing him what GUI I want.
My question is that feasible?
EDIT: Actually, Visual Fox Pro has a good GUI builder
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Originally posted by eek View PostBecause he went for the obvious bob. Mind you a remember discussions on here recently that E Europe developers aren't cheap nowadays (and from my last conversation with them they're not).
Putting together a small team with myself as techy lead has worked well in the past as way to keep costs low and have a gatekeeper on quality.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostVB is not a mockup tool. You still have to do programming.
You can easily mock up a 'screen' or form by dragging/dropping a few items from the toolbox then entering dummy text and property values.
The major benefit being that the output is a true Windows form not some etch-a-sketch that looks like Windows but may not be 100% implementable in Windows. At which point you're at the mercy of the developer having some initiative. Something that Bob isn't well renowned for.
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Originally posted by d000hg View Post
However I do wonder why Sas doesn't just find a good overseas developer, they exist (I should know, I hire[d] a few C++ guys from E. Europe).
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Originally posted by PAH View PostYep. Visual Basic.
Or VB.Net and WinForms if you want the modern equivalent.
For a real challenge try VB.Net and WPF.
You can see how M$ have moved the game on by just adding complexity over the years. Visual Basic is a simple drag/drop environment with a bit of event coding, similar to Delphi but without that dirty Pascal.
However I do wonder why Sas doesn't just find a good overseas developer, they exist (I should know, I hire[d] a few C++ guys from E. Europe).
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostThere must be GUI mockup tools but I think this is a reasonable approach. AtW this is a professional section not general... also BASIC has formed the basis of many real apps over the decades, laughing at it before knowing the use-case makes you look like a programmer rather than a business owner.
Sas, does Delphi still exist? That would've been a good tool for this.
1) I think they've buggered it up over the last few years
2)I don't think its the correct tool here as I don't know what the development and target platforms are. If the target platform in Windows creating an interface in VS express that you developer can then attach his code to is going to be the best solution.
Although why the solution is being writing in C++ is an interesting question to ask SAS.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostThere must be GUI mockup tools
Yep. Visual Basic.
Or VB.Net and WinForms if you want the modern equivalent.
For a real challenge try VB.Net and WPF.
You can see how M$ have moved the game on by just adding complexity over the years. Visual Basic is a simple drag/drop environment with a bit of event coding, similar to Delphi but without that dirty Pascal.
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There must be GUI mockup tools but I think this is a reasonable approach. AtW this is a professional section not general... also BASIC has formed the basis of many real apps over the decades, laughing at it before knowing the use-case makes you look like a programmer rather than a business owner.
Sas, does Delphi still exist? That would've been a good tool for this.
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