Reply to: Are arty farty websites a good idea?

[Sysman]

Stick to something nice, clean and understated: http://www.americanbeautybordercollies.com/

Another contender?

UMW (Unwanted Music Warning) - Switch yer own sounds off first.

[PAH]

The bit of my brain that handles synonyms was burnt out irreparably by the teddy bear and love heart snow-globe.

Ideal url to use on feb 14th for cheapskates like me. Not too sure about the dog angle, may get taken the wrong way.

[Durbs]

"Elegant" is the word you're looking for

The bit of my brain that handles synonyms was burnt out irreparably by the teddy bear and love heart snow-globe.

[TykeMerc]

Part of my job is to figure out what certain software products do and what platforms they run on. So sometimes I'll be told that client X is running product Y.

So I go to the product Y website and all I find is a load of rubbish blathering on and on about synergy and enabling the enterprise.

It can be surprisingly difficult to find any part which says "oh by the way our product is Y and it does this".

I really do prefer sites which say "this is what we do" in straight-forward terms

No kidding.

If I'm evaluating, buying or just curious I don't want to wade through the meaningless twaddle many websites are cluttered with, this includes Flash and music both of which tend to make me close the site immediately.
If it takes any effort to find the info I need then odds are I'll go elsewhere.

Keep it clean, simple, obvious and easy to navigate.

[NickFitz]

Stick to something nice, clean and understated: http://www.americanbeautybordercollies.com/

"Elegant" is the word you're looking for

[PAH]

Unbelievable! When I first looked at that I thought you were being serious, because I landed on a maintenance page.

Their logs probably show an influx of visitors from this site! They're probably only set up for a few visitors a day, so it fell over when two of us tried to access it at the same time.

[Sysman]

Stick to something nice, clean and understated: http://www.americanbeautybordercollies.com/

Unbelievable! When I first looked at that I thought you were being serious, because I landed on a maintenance page.

[Numpty]

Stick to something nice, clean and understated: http://www.americanbeautybordercollies.com/

Does anyone have any tips on how to remove diced carrot from a keyboard?

[PAH]

For anyone not wanting to set up own site, BT are pushing this thing called BT Tradespace in collaboration with Paypal. Looks good for a free shop , none of restrictions of eBay.

Don't eBay own Paypal?

Wonder what'll happen if BT step on eBay's rather big feet by trying to entice the less amateur sellers away from eBay.

[xoggoth]

For anyone not wanting to set up own site, BT are pushing this thing called BT Tradespace in collaboration with Paypal. Looks good for a free shop , none of restrictions of eBay.

[Sysman]

I suppose it's a non-issue then in that the people that know how to turn it off/on, and the reasons why, are the only ones likely to turn it off, and if they fancy doing a spot of javascript trolley shopping they'll turn it back on.

I've got bits of Javascript on a couple of sites, with the aim of graceful degradation. In practice that means that a visitor with JS disabled will get full instead of partial screen refreshes and fully expanded dialogues instead of collapsed ones. In other words, the main meat of the web site should still be accessible and work with JS disabled. I'll hasten to add I'm not doing anything terribly fancy.

Jo public probably has the browser set to how it comes 'out of the box', so as long as javascript is on by default with most popular browsers they'll know no different.

This is probably true, but I am occasionally stunned by the arrogance of those who hand out stroppy messages inferring you are a moron if you visit their site with it turned off.

[PAH]

I turn it off until I've decided to trust the site. It doesn't come on automatically.

I suppose it's a non-issue then in that the people that know how to turn it off/on, and the reasons why, are the only ones likely to turn it off, and if they fancy doing a spot of javascript trolley shopping they'll turn it back on.


Jo public probably has the browser set to how it comes 'out of the box', so as long as javascript is on by default with most popular browsers they'll know no different.

[cojak]

Do people still turn javascript off and if so can they no longer go shopping?

Are these people more than nerds using Opera so probably worth worrying about?

Never really sure whether it's safe to rely on javascript these days.

I turn it off until I've decided to trust the site. It doesn't come on automatically.

[PAH]

Pity about the jscript based shopping cart.

Do people still turn javascript off and if so can they no longer go shopping?

Are these people more than nerds using Opera so probably worth worrying about?

Never really sure whether it's safe to rely on javascript these days.

[xoggoth]

Ta for comments, useful links in there. Mostly, I seem to be approaching it ok by keeping it simple. (Pity about the jscript based shopping cart.)