Reply to: Mike Kerridge AWOL

[Concernedlc]

Jesus, what a cluster f**k that was. They had some arrogance going to FTT with that argument. I'm as dumb as they come and I can't see for one minute how that was going to wash. Surely that argument has been tested multiple times in the past. If he was right then every PSC will have been doing it wrong.

Interesting point though. If a director is considered an employee for RTI and how can we be exempt from NMW etc? Sounds like they aren't applying the same decision to all aspects of a director.

A good resource to point newbies to when they don't want to learn how to run their companies though.

It just goes to show the arrogance of some advisors, this is an "expert" who has countless people signed up to his arrangements to protect them from HMRC and he cannot even deal with simple RTI.

Also, are you telling me that this happened for years and at no point did he inform his client that he needed to set up payroll - as a minimum.

[northernladuk]

Jesus, what a cluster f**k that was. They had some arrogance going to FTT with that argument. I'm as dumb as they come and I can't see for one minute how that was going to wash. Surely that argument has been tested multiple times in the past. If he was right then every PSC will have been doing it wrong.

Interesting point though. If a director is considered an employee for RTI and how can we be exempt from NMW etc? Sounds like they aren't applying the same decision to all aspects of a director.

A good resource to point newbies to when they don't want to learn how to run their companies though.

[cojak]

Oh Dear....

Kerridge was asked whether he agreed that McDonald’s income had been correctly reported on the employment pages as employment income, to which he replied it “had to be returned somewhere”.

An even bigger Oh Dear...

HMRC appears to have submitted a thorough and comprehensive case to the FTT, while Kerridge seemingly relied on a single argument based on an incorrect reading of the legislation. All in all, an easy win for HMRC.

(No penalties for MK, one notices, just a spanking and a telling off for the client.)

[Concernedlc]

I'm just going to leave this here

https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/tax/...oes-down-badly

for those interested in the text of the case ukftt_tc_2023_659.pdf (nationalarchives.gov.uk)

[NotAmused]

https://financeandtax.decisions.trib....aspx?id=11996

https://financeandtax.decisions.trib....aspx?id=11267

looks like HMRC are 2-0.

Well spotted! Thanks. Looks like they are in a world of pain

[Concernedlc]

https://financeandtax.decisions.trib....aspx?id=11996

https://financeandtax.decisions.trib....aspx?id=11267

looks like HMRC are 2-0.

[Axeman]

Ooh! Do tell ... or link ..

[NeverTheTwain]

Very interesting story as to why Mike and James split..

[Axeman]

Mr Kerridge I presume

Anyone still looking for MJK might be interested to know he's just pinged me a connection request on LinkedIn so that might be a good place to look for him.

[NotAmused]

Hopefully this thread remains. When his named has been mentioned in the past the thread has been closed. I think it is good to keep it open to at least make people stop and think.

[Concernedlc]

I would hope not - Big Group have got a huge number of participants. I doubt that you have managed to get sufficient fees tho, for the work you have done.

[webberg]

@Chimpmaster - It certainly wasn't £10k joining fee for me, however after 7 years of paying for his services I've probably shelled out about that much. Still less than my tax bill, and probably about the same as any other firm (provided the work has been done). .

I will say that if the above fee value is correct I seriously doubt that any of our clients, even those who joined on Day 1, have paid even half of that in fees.

[Concernedlc]

They are all ambulance chaser in the end, but at least Kerridge only chased those arrangements that he advised on - so far as I'm aware.

@Chimpmaster - It certainly wasn't £10k joining fee for me, however after 7 years of paying for his services I've probably shelled out about that much. Still less than my tax bill, and probably about the same as any other firm (provided the work has been done). He never had the same numbers as big group so the costs were always going to be more.

From what I have been able to understand, Kerridge advised Priest who facilitated companies for Mark Turner - Turners dirty little paws are on companies selling schemes to this date, which is unbelievable.

It made scene at the time to use the man who advised on the schemes to put up a defense. It still does now, all I want to know is has anyone spoken to him or know where he is? in the past his company has kept us up to date or has at least responded to emails/calls. Now we have heard nothing since March - not even a reminder to submit out delayed 2019 returns, or any assistance with disclosures.

[Fred Bloggs]

Another ambulance chaser? He has a lot of history with many companies on google, it seems.

[ChimpMaster]

He was the charlatan that worked with Martin Priest in Guernsey to facilitate some real dodgy schemes. I can't believe you (or anyone) actually thought he would be able to help you. I heard he was asking for upfront fees of £10k to just "help" people settle with HMRC!

It's unlikely you'll hear from him now. Your best chance is to get a few people together and sue him for malpractice, if at all possible.