Reply to: Dear Richard Littlejohn, here’s some polish for that turd

[Platypus]

Nurses are paid fairly.
Pay for nurses - NHS Careers

[vetran]

That's a totally bogus comparison - except maybe care-home workers, whom I would happily say are quite similar to nurses and should be treated as such.

A waiter does not have to deal with cleaning up bodily fluids. A waiter can kick out someone who is being a total arse. A waiter seems a customer for a few minutes in total and then they leave , not hour after hour, day after day.

A nurse can call 24 hour security and have the person restrained forcibly.

A waiter will have to mop up puke if a diner over indulges. Someone cleans the Toilets at restaurants. If its length of stay that is important then we can include hotel staff.

There are more people wanting to be nurses than places so its obviously not that bad. I'm all for paying nurses fairly but they need to remember that many other staff do harder or more unpleasant jobs for a lot less money.

[DodgyAgent]

Depends on what type of nurse they are.

Some nurses are now managers and others do the job of GPs. I know both and am extremely thankful for the latter.

I still think we should spend the money on the palace of Westminster before we bomb it. The sense of occasion would be better than if it was just a ruin

[SueEllen]

Let us remember that nurses do not carry much responsibility and they are paid well enough as they are. A lot of them need a kick up the arse. The NHS needs reforming not feeding.

Depends on what type of nurse they are.

Some nurses are now managers and others do the job of GPs. I know both and am extremely thankful for the latter.

[d000hg]

so do waitresses, care home workers and hotel staff. They seem to attract minimum wage.

Logical arguments not emotional ones please.

That's a totally bogus comparison - except maybe care-home workers, whom I would happily say are quite similar to nurses and should be treated as such.

A waiter does not have to deal with cleaning up bodily fluids. A waiter can kick out someone who is being a total arse. A waiter seems a customer for a few minutes in total and then they leave , not hour after hour, day after day.

[DodgyAgent]

Let's hope the next one you get doesn't confuse micrograms and milligrams when dishing out your meds eh?

I had a nurse friend, she said they were not permitted to cut patients nails because that was regarded as a surgical procedure so a doctor had to do it. There's a small example of a total waste of cash.

I agree re the repair work needing to be done. Can't have the place falling to pieces. A stitch in time and all that.... Although I bet 'in time' was 20 or 30 years ago.

I worded it wrongly. They do the job but they do not carry the can if things go wrong and nor are they accountable other than if they are woefully neglectful.

[vetran]

Nurses have to deal with all the crap - both literal and metaphorical - from the patients. That alone deserves decent compensation

so do waitresses, care home workers and hotel staff. They seem to attract minimum wage.

Logical arguments not emotional ones please.

[d000hg]

Nurses have to deal with all the crap - both literal and metaphorical - from the patients. That alone deserves decent compensation

[vetran]

Let's hope the next one you get doesn't confuse micrograms and milligrams when dishing out your meds eh?

I had a nurse friend, she said they were not permitted to cut patients nails because that was regarded as a surgical procedure so a doctor had to do it. There's a small example of a total waste of cash.

I agree re the repair work needing to be done. Can't have the place falling to pieces. A stitch in time and all that.... Although I bet 'in time' was 20 or 30 years ago.

My understanding is that they mainly distribute not dispense? I assume there is one specialist nurse that actually dispenses the rest are just delivery drivers and I assume the specialist is paid the same as a a Pharmacist who earns 34K.

[barrydidit]

The money would be better spent on the Palace of westminster. the jobs it would create would be worth it alone. It is in a terrible state of disrepair.
Why should we just pander to the "open cheque" politics of the NHS and just pay nurses more? Why dont we do what the socialist workers party want us to do and all of us work for the NHS?

Let us remember that nurses do not carry much responsibility and they are paid well enough as they are. A lot of them need a kick up the arse. The NHS needs reforming not feeding.

Let's hope the next one you get doesn't confuse micrograms and milligrams when dishing out your meds eh?

I had a nurse friend, she said they were not permitted to cut patients nails because that was regarded as a surgical procedure so a doctor had to do it. There's a small example of a total waste of cash.

I agree re the repair work needing to be done. Can't have the place falling to pieces. A stitch in time and all that.... Although I bet 'in time' was 20 or 30 years ago.

[DodgyAgent]

However, a stark comparison.

The National Health Service is facing a £2 billion hole in it's finances and is on the brink of disaster. Apparently there is no money available for this, as clearly demonstrated by the government's refusal to give nurses a measly 1% pay rise.

However...the proposed bill for the restoration of Westminster Palace is approximately £3 billion. How much would you bet that this money magically appears from somewhere despite being told "there's no money left"?

'£3bn bill' for palace restoration

BBC News - NHS 'facing funding gap of up to £2bn' in England

The money would be better spent on the Palace of westminster. the jobs it would create would be worth it alone. It is in a terrible state of disrepair.
Why should we just pander to the "open cheque" politics of the NHS and just pay nurses more? Why dont we do what the socialist workers party want us to do and all of us work for the NHS?

Let us remember that nurses do not carry much responsibility and they are paid well enough as they are. A lot of them need a kick up the arse. The NHS needs reforming not feeding.

[d000hg]

The tins of beans with the little sausages in them, they are the best.

Finally. The one thing the two of us can agree on

[SueEllen]

However, a stark comparison.

The National Health Service is facing a £2 billion hole in it's finances and is on the brink of disaster. Apparently there is no money available for this, as clearly demonstrated by the government's refusal to give nurses a measly 1% pay rise.

However...the proposed bill for the restoration of Westminster Palace is approximately £3 billion. How much would you bet that this money magically appears from somewhere despite being told "there's no money left"?

Buildings for MPs and Lords are more important than nurses being able to live let alone in expensive areas.

[darmstadt]

Well done Sainsburys for giving her the heave-ho.

So, final score: Monroe 1 - Liddlejohn 1.

So she hasn't been dropped by Sainsbury's but has been attacked by Michael Gove's wife who is a columnist (5th?) for the Wail:

Sarah Vine on Jack Monroe being a lesbian mother: 'If she was unsure about her sexuality, she should have taken greater precautions' - People - News - The Independent

Jack Monroe Blasts Sarah Vine's Daily Mail Column As 'Homophobic, Ignorant Ghastly Lies'

Jack Monroe Denies Sainsbury's Has Axed Her Over Comments About David Cameron's Son

[darmstadt]

Read the Ukip, BNP, EDL, Britain First or Tory manifestos recently? They're full of the above subjects as well. right wing bigots or left wing bigots, they're the same and everyone else is wrong

And they even have their very own steamy novel: Tormented by the Truth eBook: George Chedzoy: Amazon.co.uk: Kindle Store hug: