Reply to: I need an Arab speaking Python Programmer

[NotAllThere]

What makes some people immigrate to a country where they face not be able to communicate with about 99.9% of the population ?

Things like this.

Has anyone bought the kid a Raspberry Pi?

[doodab]

I must confess that naively I had higher hopes for this request on CUK, congrats people, you've managed to annoy a pimp and fail to help a kid.

Have you tried expat sites in Saudi / UAE etc? I believe the Iranians have made their own processors so you could try them too.

I'd also say again that python is the wrong language. If nothing else it's reliance on indenting to provide structure is going to confuse the **** out or someone who naturally reads right to left and hasn't adapted. Perhaps something like scratch would be a better place to start.

[BillHicksRIP]

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<Sonium> someone speak python here?
<lucky> HHHHHSSSSSHSSS
<lucky> SSSSS
<Sonium> the programming language


An oldie, but a goodie.

[Old Greg]

I must confess that naively I had higher hopes for this request on CUK, congrats people, you've managed to annoy a pimp and fail to help a kid.

Annoying a pimp is always worthwhile. How many kids have you failed to help today?

But best of luck.

[stek]

Do you not think you 'shooting in the dark' is a bit of an understatement though? Arabic speaking python programmer that can work for free..... Not asking for a lot that is it?

I think bearing in mind you took this on technically it would be you that has failed the kid

I've totally misread the initial post, I thought DC was wanting to employ (i.e. pimp out) the nipper as a trainee Pythoner, now I realise he's just wanted one of the millions of Arab-speaking Python programmers on here to tutor him for free.

This is General isn't?

[northernladuk]

I'm not his employer, he's a 15 yo at school, although I bitch about IT education in The Register, I don't just whine, but try to do something about it, his teacher put out a call for help. I doubt I will even meet this guy, let alone employ him.

I must confess that naively I had higher hopes for this request on CUK, congrats people, you've managed to annoy a pimp and fail to help a kid.

Do you not think you 'shooting in the dark' is a bit of an understatement though? Arabic speaking python programmer that can work for free..... Not asking for a lot that is it?

I think bearing in mind you took this on technically it would be you that has failed the kid

[Dominic Connor]

Seriously though, UKBA consider working for free as work, and as his tacit employer you have a duty to check his visa status and right to work.

I'm not his employer, he's a 15 yo at school, although I bitch about IT education in The Register, I don't just whine, but try to do something about it, his teacher put out a call for help. I doubt I will even meet this guy, let alone employ him.

I must confess that naively I had higher hopes for this request on CUK, congrats people, you've managed to annoy a pimp and fail to help a kid.

[Dominic Connor]

Pretty sure my 15yo English speaking child wouldn't understand that phrase.

My 12yo can, he's literally the poster child for the Royal Institution.

[Uncle Albert]

Codecademy Python course + Google Translate = Arabic Python course

Enjoy.

[suityou01]

There is also an argument to be made that if he wants to learn programming he shouldn't be learning python.

No there isn't.

HTH

[Platypus]

Children and that includes teenagers can pick up English really quickly.

It would be better spending the money to immerse him in English completely i.e. 16 hours a day for 7 days a week, and then in a years time give him programming resources.

^WYS

[stek]

That is being addressed by other means, though the language resources provided by LEAs are piss poor. I agree that he should learn English, I believe everyone should learn English even if they never come to Britain, but realistically it will be a couple of years before his English is good enough to understand phrases like "instantiate the functor object", by which point you'll have a 17 yo whose effective education level is that of an 11yo. For better or worse, this poor bastard will have to learn Physics, Python, Maths, History and Road Safety in a language he doesn't yet understand that uses an alphabet be barely can parse.

As Dr. Doodab says programming can be a good place to help him learn English and since speaking English less than perfectly is not a barrier to working in programming it may be a career for him.


No Stek, I have not checked his visa status, I have no interest in it at all.

That is not a "politically correct" position, my rather right wing view is that the success of any country is mostly determined by the quality of people in it. Thus if as a teenager this kid can get up to speed in programming despite the piss he has to wade through, then he is the sort of person I want in the UK, paying taxes and working here, not back home working for the competition and paying their taxes.

Seriously though, UKBA consider working for free as work, and as his tacit employer you have a duty to check his visa status and right to work.

[SueEllen]

What makes some people immigrate to a country where they face not be able to communicate with about 99.9% of the population ?

Children and that includes teenagers can pick up English really quickly.

It would be better spending the money to immerse him in English completely i.e. 16 hours a day for 7 days a week, and then in a years time give him programming resources.

[doodab]

There is also an argument to be made that if he wants to learn programming he shouldn't be learning python.

[SimonMac]

The real irony is I know hundreds of Python speaking Arab programmers.

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