Reply to: List of outside IR35 roles

[jonnycv]

Thanks, Keywords would be Revit, Microstation, AutoCAD and Civil 3D.

[bluezee123]

It would be really useful (to me anyway!) if you could add CAD jobs, please (I know it is not IT, but we are all fellow Contractors!). Many thanks Jonny

Sounds good! What skills/titles do you usually search for?

[xoggoth]

No use to me as I'm a retired, almost dead, old git but nice thing to do! Well done.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Thanks, this is excellent

[jonnycv]

It would be really useful (to me anyway!) if you could add CAD jobs, please (I know it is not IT, but we are all fellow Contractors!). Many thanks Jonny

[bluezee123]

You're very welcome!

Btw for those interested - just added an "enterprise" skills category (and matching jobs):

• Dynamics 365 (D365)
• Power Platform
• Microsoft/Office 365
• SharePoint
• Salesforce
• SAP
• Workday
• ServiceNow

Let me know if I've missed any!

[stingman123]

Really useful. I've bookmarked for my next bench stint

Thanks!

[bluezee123]

Evening all - quick update on outsideir35.org.uk

I've optimised layout on mobile so you don't have to scroll from side to side to see all the job details and buttons.

I think it's a significant improvement but keen to hear what you all think!

Thanks for all your feedback and support so far 👍 Really glad you're finding the site useful.

[sadkingbilly]

God that is depressing reading looking at some of the jobs....

• PM £400/day
• SDET £400/day
• React Dev £330/day
• Lead engineer £375/day

It was better than this 10 years ago...

aye, nostalgia is NOT what it used to be

[Ardesco]

God that is depressing reading looking at some of the jobs....

• PM £400/day
• SDET £400/day
• React Dev £330/day
• Lead engineer £375/day

It was better than this 10 years ago...

[jamesbrown]

Is it possible in this case that it's the CFO who is the actual Office holder and not the Finance Director position? The CFO is presumably the position on the Board of Directors, not the FD role?

Could be, the position title doesn't always mirror the formal appointment to an office. The only certain thing is that an office holder is deemed inside IR35, whether under Chapter 8 or Chapter 10, and I wouldn't trust an advert to get this right. Also, as Protagoras notes, the rate is a bit....er....optimistic.

[edison]

Nope, this is designated under Chapter 10, ITEPA too. If, under the hypothetical contract between the worker and the client, the worker would be regarded as an office holder of the client or, in actual fact, they are an office holder of the client and performing services related to that office, then the worker is "inside IR35".

In other words, don't rely on the fluff in position descriptions.

Is it possible in this case that it's the CFO who is the actual Office holder and not the Finance Director position? The CFO is presumably the position on the Board of Directors, not the FD role?

[Protagoras]

Nope, this is designated under Chapter 10, ITEPA too. If, under the hypothetical contract between the worker and the client, the worker would be regarded as an office holder of the client or, in actual fact, they are an office holder of the client and performing services related to that office, then the worker is "inside IR35".

In other words, don't rely on the fluff in position descriptions.

Just so.

Who'd therefore be surprised if the contract for this role was to include an indemnity clause ...

Absent an indemnity clause, what's not to like, other than the rate which looks rather on the light side to me.

[jamesbrown]

Great post that thank you very much. If I was a miserable old git I'd be hacked off you've now made it easier for 500 chumps to apply for the role I took time and effort to find but hey ho

Interesting to see there is a Interim Finance Director reporting to the CFO. I thought that would be an 'Office Holder' role and therefore not be able to work outside IR35. It's definitely a proper director role reporting to the CFO and not just a jumped up title. That said I've no idea if Office Holder rules have changed with the new world of SDS etc. but I wouldn't have thought so as there is case history on this.

https://outsideir35.org.uk/jobs/inte...xWSDCjewMH?b=1

Nope, this is designated under Chapter 10, ITEPA too. If, under the hypothetical contract between the worker and the client, the worker would be regarded as an office holder of the client or, in actual fact, they are an office holder of the client and performing services related to that office, then the worker is "inside IR35".

In other words, don't rely on the fluff in position descriptions.

[northernladuk]

Great post that thank you very much. If I was a miserable old git I'd be hacked off you've now made it easier for 500 chumps to apply for the role I took time and effort to find but hey ho

Interesting to see there is a Interim Finance Director reporting to the CFO. I thought that would be an 'Office Holder' role and therefore not be able to work outside IR35. It's definitely a proper director role reporting to the CFO and not just a jumped up title. That said I've no idea if Office Holder rules have changed with the new world of SDS etc. but I wouldn't have thought so as there is case history on this.

https://outsideir35.org.uk/jobs/inte...xWSDCjewMH?b=1