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    #21
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    Great post that thank you very much. If I was a miserable old git I'd be hacked off you've now made it easier for 500 chumps to apply for the role I took time and effort to find but hey ho

    Interesting to see there is a Interim Finance Director reporting to the CFO. I thought that would be an 'Office Holder' role and therefore not be able to work outside IR35. It's definitely a proper director role reporting to the CFO and not just a jumped up title. That said I've no idea if Office Holder rules have changed with the new world of SDS etc. but I wouldn't have thought so as there is case history on this.

    https://outsideir35.org.uk/jobs/inte...xWSDCjewMH?b=1
    Nope, this is designated under Chapter 10, ITEPA too. If, under the hypothetical contract between the worker and the client, the worker would be regarded as an office holder of the client or, in actual fact, they are an office holder of the client and performing services related to that office, then the worker is "inside IR35".

    In other words, don't rely on the fluff in position descriptions.

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      #22
      Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post

      Nope, this is designated under Chapter 10, ITEPA too. If, under the hypothetical contract between the worker and the client, the worker would be regarded as an office holder of the client or, in actual fact, they are an office holder of the client and performing services related to that office, then the worker is "inside IR35".

      In other words, don't rely on the fluff in position descriptions.
      Just so.

      Who'd therefore be surprised if the contract for this role was to include an indemnity clause ...

      Absent an indemnity clause, what's not to like, other than the rate which looks rather on the light side to me.

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        #23
        Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post

        Nope, this is designated under Chapter 10, ITEPA too. If, under the hypothetical contract between the worker and the client, the worker would be regarded as an office holder of the client or, in actual fact, they are an office holder of the client and performing services related to that office, then the worker is "inside IR35".

        In other words, don't rely on the fluff in position descriptions.
        Is it possible in this case that it's the CFO who is the actual Office holder and not the Finance Director position? The CFO is presumably the position on the Board of Directors, not the FD role?

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          #24
          Originally posted by edison View Post

          Is it possible in this case that it's the CFO who is the actual Office holder and not the Finance Director position? The CFO is presumably the position on the Board of Directors, not the FD role?
          Could be, the position title doesn't always mirror the formal appointment to an office. The only certain thing is that an office holder is deemed inside IR35, whether under Chapter 8 or Chapter 10, and I wouldn't trust an advert to get this right. Also, as Protagoras notes, the rate is a bit....er....optimistic.

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