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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    That's cos the headline wasn't written by AI.
    Nah they would use better grammar and spelling than the millennials they have writing copy!

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  • quackhandle
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    Top right could have been a member of the Kempeitai on a busman's holiday.

    qh

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  • Fraidycat
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    Originally posted by edison View Post
    AI based systems exhibit bias against darker skinned faces based on skewed training data. I don't remember ever seeing a Daily Mail headline about that but I could be wrong...
    I remember it, it was 9 years ago.. AI wasnt so good back then:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...d-picture.html

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by edison View Post

    Fair enough - tried that search and several Mail stories came up including one about a well known study from MIT around 5 years ago. I was disappointed they couldn't squeeze 'woke' into the headline though
    WOKE equalling technical idiocy is a well known synonym for the cognoscenti!

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by edison View Post

    Fair enough - tried that search and several Mail stories came up including one about a well known study from MIT around 5 years ago. I was disappointed they couldn't squeeze 'woke' into the headline though
    That's cos the headline wasn't written by AI.

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  • edison
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    in The wail, sun, the register and computer weekly.

    here is a google search string for you "racist ai site:dailymail.co.uk"

    As I say train on bicycles then trying to recognise cars is idiocy.

    AI is not going anywhere but we need to train it properly.

    AI is an opinion formed from experience if you have only ever lived in a white / black 3 house hamlet your experience may be limited.
    Fair enough - tried that search and several Mail stories came up including one about a well known study from MIT around 5 years ago. I was disappointed they couldn't squeeze 'woke' into the headline though

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by edison View Post
    Google have got themselves into a real mess with AI and after firing some of their leading AI ethics specialists which made headlines around the world, maybe this is some kind of karma.

    There's plenty of research and evidence that AI based systems exhibit bias against darker skinned faces based on skewed training data. I don't remember ever seeing a Daily Mail headline about that but I could be wrong...

    What Google set out to do was laudable but somehow they've managed to engineer a product that has in effect, created the same problem but in the opposite direction.

    In the week when NVIDIA released astonishing financial results on the back of insane demand from customers like Google for their GPUs to power AI, this is a major humiliation for Google.
    in The wail, sun, the register and computer weekly.

    here is a google search string for you "racist ai site:dailymail.co.uk"

    As I say train on bicycles then trying to recognise cars is idiocy.

    AI is not going anywhere but we need to train it properly.

    AI is an opinion formed from experience if you have only ever lived in a white / black 3 house hamlet your experience may be limited.

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  • edison
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    Google have got themselves into a real mess with AI and after firing some of their leading AI ethics specialists which made headlines around the world, maybe this is some kind of karma.

    There's plenty of research and evidence that AI based systems exhibit bias against darker skinned faces based on skewed training data. I don't remember ever seeing a Daily Mail headline about that but I could be wrong...

    What Google set out to do was laudable but somehow they've managed to engineer a product that has in effect, created the same problem but in the opposite direction.

    In the week when NVIDIA released astonishing financial results on the back of insane demand from customers like Google for their GPUs to power AI, this is a major humiliation for Google.

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  • vetran
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    You obviously didn't watch the documentary "the Dirty Dozen" with Jim Brown disguised in an SS uniform walking into a Gestapo Chateau.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061578...?ref_=tt_md_10

    Not to say many of our colonies and ethnic minorities didn't answer the call, but its like like me disguising myself as a lap dancer i.e. not very believable in context!

    People love to tie themselves in knots. If you train your model on just Bicycles it won't recognise cars its as simple as that!

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  • northernladuk
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    Just to add some context so the thread becomes vaguley interesting the title should have been 'Gemini 1.5 refused to generate images of white people'
    Linky
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ke-images.html

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  • Fraidycat
    started a topic Woke AI

    Woke AI

    Google AI when asked to provide an image of a German Solider from 1943, real response not a meme


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