Reply to: Project partners still in Business

[vetran]

Comparing small purchase convenience retail to recruitment is probably not the best example especially the independent sector. All that would happen certainly in this country that Tesco Express/ Sainsburys local would gobble the outstanding market that those independents had - maybe a percentage point or 2 each.

Trust me there are too many recruitment agencies worldwide and not enough business to really go around. If a big agency like Hays or the s3 group or even both went bust today it would not matter one jot to the end clients. Yes lots of workers would be in the tulip but apart form a few extra phone calls the people who pay the bills - the clients - would not be affected. If 30% of all recruitment agencies went bust today the effect would be just the same on those who pay the bills. The business model is badly damaged. The big question is what can replace it?

The model has already changed for many big companies, they hire embedded individual agents mostly on FTC.

The medium size are still on agencies.

[courtg9000]

If you follow that logic most corner shops / bazaar shops are over supply.

Comparing small purchase convenience retail to recruitment is probably not the best example especially the independent sector. All that would happen certainly in this country that Tesco Express/ Sainsburys local would gobble the outstanding market that those independents had - maybe a percentage point or 2 each.

Trust me there are too many recruitment agencies worldwide and not enough business to really go around. If a big agency like Hays or the s3 group or even both went bust today it would not matter one jot to the end clients. Yes lots of workers would be in the tulip but apart form a few extra phone calls the people who pay the bills - the clients - would not be affected. If 30% of all recruitment agencies went bust today the effect would be just the same on those who pay the bills. The business model is badly damaged. The big question is what can replace it?

[vetran]

Sector wide the recruitment market place is too big for the markets it serves by about I reckon 30%
So if 30% of all recruitment agents went bust tomorrow the market might be about right.
This means too many agents and agencies chasing too little business.
If you are not an income stream or potential income stream to them they are not going to bother with you.

If you follow that logic most corner shops / bazaar shops are over supply.

[courtg9000]

Sector wide the recruitment market place is too big for the markets it serves by about I reckon 30%
So if 30% of all recruitment agents went bust tommorow the market might be about right.
This means too many agents and agencies chasing too little business.
If you are not an income stream or potential income stream to them they are not going to bother with you.

[DoctorStrangelove]

Did you read the ad? It's there in bold.



£1600 a month cash in hand with only a years experience isn't the worst thing in the world.

It's not in bold any more.

It's not there at all. .

And yes, I had read the ad: £100 to £120/day, inside IR35. So do feck off.

[northernladuk]

Good to see that electronics is as well paid as ever:

https://www.jobserve.com/gb/en/searc...81685162B5387/

£100/day. WTF?

Did you read the ad? It's there in bold.

This role would suit someone with 1-2 years' experience

£1600 a month cash in hand with only a years experience isn't the worst thing in the world.

[DoctorStrangelove]

Good to see that electronics is as well paid as ever:

https://www.jobserve.com/gb/en/searc...81685162B5387/

£100/day. WTF?

[vetran]

I imagine there are lots of small/one man band recruiters struggling at the moment due to the lack of client demand - perm and contract.

Perm? A bit of Azure skill and recruiters want your babies!

[saptastic]

I imagine there are lots of small/one man band recruiters struggling at the moment due to the lack of client demand - perm and contract.

[vetran]

True that.

Similarly, I ignore most of the dross that agents send me because it's poorly targeted tat.

If the mail starts with - we are really impressed with your skillset then I find replying with - well that pays for 2 days a week does the trick! I call it the Evangelista Gambit!



They do poor searches and funnel those into a mail shot. It has no cost to them. Annoy them on the way back.

I spent a week or so on SAP sorting how we create the data now I get SAP implementation requests all the time.

[ladymuck]

Agents? Professional? They work for themselves and their commission. End of. If they aren't making money from you you are dead to them. 'Tis the way it's been since the dawn of time. If you've not heard from them then you've got all the feedback you need.

True that.

Similarly, I ignore most of the dross that agents send me because it's poorly targeted tat.

[northernladuk]

You may be right
but its not professional for them not to acknowledge your email or reply to a chaser email I sent

Agents? Professional? They work for themselves and their commission. End of. If they aren't making money from you you are dead to them. 'Tis the way it's been since the dawn of time. If you've not heard from them then you've got all the feedback you need.

[Grinzola]

You may be right
but its not professional for them not to acknowledge your email or reply to a chaser email I sent

[Sox Machine]

Applied for 2 positions with these guys back end of July
both Applications show as pending

Some clients will keep a requisition open for a fixed amount of time before evaluating all the CVs received during that period. This is especially true during the staffing-up phase of a new project, when the time is available to select the most qualified resources.

Also, if it makes you feel any better, I applied for a position sometime in 2011, and have yet to hear back. I suspect they may have gone with another candidate though.

[northernladuk]

I believe so but they've upped their game. They've left the world of bottom feeding agents and are only looking for the best quality hires. All the dross just stay as pending or something.