Reply to: Lazy old bastards, get back to work!!!

[SueEllen]

I didn't say I wasn't getting on in years ... I said I wasn't mature

I thought it was better than calling you all

[Whorty]

You are nearer retirement than the start of your career.

I didn't say I wasn't getting on in years ... I said I wasn't mature

[AtW]

Torygraph can shut up and go away.

For a price

[SueEllen]

Even at 52, I'm hardly mature.

You are nearer retirement than the start of your career.

I am childless, and have worked non stop 30 years. Probably keep going for a bit longer though, although like many this will almost certainly go to a 6 months on/6 months off in the next few years. Just need to get the current projects up and running and over the line and boost my CV, then it's back contracting.

This is what they are bitching about. People in their 50s are realising, partly thanks to the lockdowns, you only have one life.

I'll still be paying more tax than the average worker

They want you to pay more.

- in fact, I pay more tax today than the gross pay of an average worker so they can go fook off attacking us oldies. It's me and ATW alone that are keeping this country afloat!

They want you to pay more and keep working so hopefully you drop dead early.

[Paddy]

Behind a paywall, can't be bothered to read it ... at 52, am I an old bugger?

Use TOR, firewall disappears

[PCTNN]

After the B thing it's got much more difficult to travel the other direction for persons from the UK.

Even if brits have got blue passports and hold all the cards?

[DoctorStrangelove]

That would be cool ... visa free travel around India for 12 months ... be dusting my backpack off next year and heading down to Goa

Er, it might be visa free in one direction.

After the B thing it's got much more difficult to travel in the other direction for persons from the UK.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/indian-vis...152819602.html

CItizens of all 27 European Union members are currently entitled to eVisas. It is unclear why the United Kingdom, previously one of the key tourism markets for India, should effectively be penalised.

One theory circulating in the travel industry is that at the time the scheme was withdrawn, the UK was still a de facto member of the EU. When eVisas started up again, the European Union was restored to to the list – but an administrative oversight meant that the United Kingdom was not added separately.

A more plausible explanation is reciprocation: Indian citizens face considerable bureaucracy to secure a visa for the UK.

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That would be cool ... visa free travel around India for 12 months ... be dusting my backpack off next year and heading down to Goa

I'm sure if you a fluent in one of the Indian languages, you'd have no issues securing a role there

[Whorty]

Yep.

Lots of more mature workers are retiring early (or if they worked for something like the NHS working in less taxing lower paid part-time jobs) because they are either childless, their children are adults or they are ill and as they have worked continuously since a young age have calculated they can afford to give up working in their professions/main roles.

It's causing a problem economically as due to demographics there isn't enough younger workers in the UK and Europe to replace them.

Even at 52, I'm hardly mature. I am childless, and have worked non stop 30 years. Probably keep going for a bit longer though, although like many this will almost certainly go to a 6 months on/6 months off in the next few years. Just need to get the current projects up and running and over the line and boost my CV, then it's back contracting.

I'll still be paying more tax than the average worker - in fact, I pay more tax today than the gross pay of an average worker so they can go fook off attacking us oldies. It's me and ATW alone that are keeping this country afloat!

[Whorty]

https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/uk...our-shortages/

TL;DR; ?

Businesses used to get cheap cheap labour from EU workers, no visa or hassles. Business wants cheapest workers possible, but getting work permits/visas is too much hassle for low paid work.

Result, Tories want to allow Indian people to arrive and work here without work permits. We are heading back to free movement of people, not with EU countries, but with India.

That would be cool ... visa free travel around India for 12 months ... be dusting my backpack off next year and heading down to Goa

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maybe they can come from India?

https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/uk...our-shortages/

TL;DR; ?

Businesses used to get cheap cheap labour from EU workers, no visa or hassles. Business wants cheapest workers possible, but getting work permits/visas is too much hassle for low paid work.

Result, Tories want to allow Indian people to arrive and work here without work permits. We are heading back to free movement of people, not with EU countries, but with India.

[PCTNN]

there isn't enough younger workers in the UK and Europe to replace them.

maybe they can come from India?

[SueEllen]

Behind a paywall, can't be bothered to read it ... at 52, am I an old bugger?

Yep.

Lots of more mature workers are retiring early (or if they worked for something like the NHS working in less taxing lower paid part-time jobs) because they are either childless, their children are adults or they are ill and as they have worked continuously since a young age have calculated they can afford to give up working in their professions/main roles.

It's causing a problem economically as due to demographics there isn't enough younger workers in the UK and Europe to replace them.

[Whorty]

Behind a paywall, can't be bothered to read it ... at 52, am I an old bugger?

[cojak]