Reply to: DOOM: Boris

[AtW]

He found Boris had lied to him on something else.

So he either did not know that Boris lies all the time or he did not care about it until he was personally lied to?

At least Boris now did the honest thing - remove any notion that ethics got any place in British politics, now that's honest for a change.

[SueEllen]

He clearly wasn't very ethical since he agreed to work for Boris in the first place

He found Boris had lied to him on something else.

[AtW]

Lord Geidt (ethics adviser) has dumped him

He clearly wasn't very ethical since he agreed to work for Boris in the first place

[jamesbrown]

Lord Geidt (ethics adviser) has dumped him

[SueEllen]

What, after shutting the economy down for 18 months? Hardly.

Why don't you ask Rishi why he keeps losing money...

[jamesbrown]

This is why some people don't deserve better than Boris

Gricer doesn't deserve better than a kick in his clown pants.

[Guy At Charnock Richard]

And you think there's more 'money left' now ??

What, after shutting the economy down for 18 months? Hardly.

[TestMangler]

Got a short memory haven't you? There was no money left, Labour splurged the lot instead of fixing the roof when the sun was shining as any decent fiscally conservative government should have done. Then 2008 came along and the rest is history.

And you think there's more 'money left' now ??

[Guy At Charnock Richard]

As opposed to what ? A massive borrowing splurge on useless PPE, non existent ferry routes, BBL Fraud and Track & Trace ? So what state are the country's finances in now, in comparison to the god awful mess that Labour left ?

Got a short memory haven't you? There was no money left, Labour splurged the lot instead of fixing the roof when the sun was shining as any decent fiscally conservative government should have done. Then 2008 came along and the rest is history.

[TestMangler]

If Starmer gets in there will be a massive Keynesian splurge on public infra-structure projects, the economy will bounce back and people will be saying "we've never 'ad it so good" until a few years later it goes belly up because money doesn't grow on trees and the Tories have to clear up the God awful mess left by Labour again. Rinse and repeat.

As opposed to what ? A massive borrowing splurge on useless PPE, non existent ferry routes, BBL Fraud and Track & Trace ? So what state are the country's finances in now, in comparison to the god awful mess that Labour left ?

[d000hg]

A Tory (or Labour) leader who steals all the good ideas from the opposition is fine by me. I don't really care if they take credit for it.

[WTFH]

If Starmer gets in there will be a massive Keynesian splurge on public infra-structure projects, the economy will bounce back and people will be saying "we've never 'ad it so good" until a few years later it goes belly up because money doesn't grow on trees and the Tories have to clear up the God awful mess left by Labour again. Rinse and repeat.

You mean exactly what the Tories have done - told us we've never had it so good, and remember 1974, and we'll balance the books, etc, but in over a decade, they have reduced services, made lots of promises and delivered extremely little - apart from lining the pockets of their mates.

This is why some people don't deserve better than Boris, because their mindset is that Tories are the perfect party, and no one else can have a clue.

[Guy At Charnock Richard]

Sign me up!

If Starmer gets in there will be a massive Keynesian splurge on public infra-structure projects, the economy will bounce back and people will be saying "we've never 'ad it so good" until a few years later it goes belly up because money doesn't grow on trees and the Tories have to clear up the God awful mess left by Labour again. Rinse and repeat.

[d000hg]

Little as I like Boris' personal behaviour, until recently I would probably on balance prefer to maintain the status quo especially now Rishi is damaged. I still see no obvious replacement but neither can I see any real way back at the next GE without a big public change to the party. There is no easy win to be had in terms of recovery - as post-Covid there seemed to be - as it looks like things are only going to get worse globally due to various reasons.

Starmer is a centrist and at least a competent, clever person so maybe not the worst thing he has it for a few years and takes all the blame without doing too much additional damage.

[mattster]

Can you imagine going back to a time when you could ignore politics unless it was an issue that really involved you personally? That's what you get with Starmer.

Sign me up!