Reply to: Loving my wood burner. Where to get wood in bulk from?

[vetran]

The carbon has to go somewhere unless you want to convert the whole planet to trees. If a tree decays it will release carbon its the circle of life.

Instead of only carbon dioxide and water vapour being created, incomplete combustion can result in the production of soot, smoke, and ash.
https://energyeducation.ca/encyclope...l%20was%20used.

So complete combustion is the aim, get the fire hot enough that no ash , smoke or soot is produced.

Wood ash is a collection of different sized particulates that are formed as a result of the combustion of wood. This ash is typically powdery and can be fairly useful due to its high content of a variety of minerals. Wood ash can be used to repel slugs and snails in gardens, de-skunk pets, melt ice, clean glass, enrich compost, and even shine silver.^[5]

If you want to stop carbon dioxide production depopulation is pretty much the only answer.

[WTFH]

Trees warm you four times:
Once when you plant them
Once when you cut them down
Once when you chop them up
Once when you burn them.

[d000hg]

Only if it's sustainably grown. Hence biomass which I already mentioned - you used to be able to get a sweet deal on such systems for just this reason.

[Paddy]

Who needs science, when you instead can just make stuff up randomly.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...ral-180968880/

Stick that up your wind powered arsehole

[agentzero]

Sounds bollox to me. Wood is carbon neutral, trees grow and absorb Co2, burn them 90% is given back.

Who needs science, when you instead can just make stuff up randomly.

[TheDude]

Sounds bollox to me. Wood is carbon neutral, trees grow and absorb Co2, burn them 90% is given back.

It's a truth that a lot of self righteous middle class people just don't want to hear.

[d000hg]

Sounds bollox to me. Wood is carbon neutral, trees grow and absorb Co2, burn them 90% is given back.

Did you miss the bit about particulates? Or the fact that you have to grow trees as quickly as you burn them? A sustainable forest is a great carbon sink but do we have enough of those?

In Scandinavia stoves are the norm, burning sustainably sourced local birch - but the stoves are incredibly efficient, the wood is properly dried (damp wood is war worse for pollution) and they have a gigantic area of forest for only ~5m population. It's not a global solution unless we plant a LOT more trees.

[AtW]

IKEA

[Paddy]

If you are understand and care about the accelerated climate change we are witnessing, you will forget the wood burning idea quickly.

Per therm of heat, wood is the worst. I think we will see wood used for burning rising in cost a lot over the next year.

https://www.euro.who.int/__data/asse...lthImpacts.pdf

Coal actually has less emissions than wood in terms of heat and longevity of the heat produced. The middle classes are being fooled by the appearance of rustic wood burning, thinking it's good for climate change. Gas is hugely more efficient and far less emissions per therm of heat, even when the extraction and overall process is added with an additional error margin.

Be aware too that most brands of stove allow the release of various chemicals into the air in your home. The extraction process isn't 100% and is well below safety standards in most brands, unfortunately. Most people don't realise this until they start getting breathing issues or regular pneumonia.

What is needed is better forms of wood for burning, because people are burning anythinca ntg. People tend to judge mainly by cost, so I can only see normal residential wood for wood burning rising in price soon. The sheer number of people installing these wood burners suggests we will see major city and town pollution, perhaps the same as the old industrial days of coal use, because the overall temperature is warmer and more humid, which will result in any emissions potentially being captured in the lower atmosphere and causing yet more issues.

Worryingly, wood burning stoves alone account for the majority of particular matter 2.5 (PM2.5) emissions in the UK, which sounds mad.
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https://www.which.co.uk/revieca nws/...n-aIPXC8g7lbu5

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p085478q

Sounds bollox to me. Wood is carbon neutral, trees grow and absorb Co2, burn them 90% is given back.

[agentzero]

If you are understand and care about the accelerated climate change we are witnessing, you will forget the wood burning idea quickly.

Per therm of heat, wood is the worst. I think we will see wood used for burning rising in cost a lot over the next year.

https://www.euro.who.int/__data/asse...lthImpacts.pdf

Coal actually has less emissions than wood in terms of heat and longevity of the heat produced. The middle classes are being fooled by the appearance of rustic wood burning, thinking it's good for climate change. Gas is hugely more efficient and far less emissions per therm of heat, even when the extraction and overall process is added with an additional error margin.

Be aware too that most brands of stove allow the release of various chemicals into the air in your home. The extraction process isn't 100% and is well below safety standards in most brands, unfortunately. Most people don't realise this until they start getting breathing issues or regular pneumonia.

What is needed is better forms of wood for burning, because people are burning anything. People tend to judge mainly by cost, so I can only see normal residential wood for wood burning rising in price soon. The sheer number of people installing these wood burners suggests we will see major city and town pollution, perhaps the same as the old industrial days of coal use, because the overall temperature is warmer and more humid, which will result in any emissions potentially being captured in the lower atmosphere and causing yet more issues.

Worryingly, wood burning stoves alone account for the majority of particular matter 2.5 (PM2.5) emissions in the UK, which sounds mad.

https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/wood...n-aIPXC8g7lbu5

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p085478q

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

There are national companies who supply in dumpy (builders) bags, about a cubic meter per bag. Going rate 80-100 quid.

Similarly local suppliers which to be fair aren't always that easy to find, but if you search on Google Maps you can find them.

Finding your local arborist/tree-surgeon firm can be a good option. You used to be able to buy fresh-cut logs from them for very little and season them yourself for a year but I think that's illegal now (not 100% certain who can sell 'green' logs now).

I've bought logs by the lorry load before but now we are self-supplied from our own trees that I keep chopping down.

This is what I was looking for.... But I can't seem to locate them locally.

Also doesn't seem to be coming in at that price:

https://www.google.com/search?q=burn...&bih=896&dpr=1


How is this:
https://www.pelletkings.com/product-...d-silver-birch

[d000hg]

Now is not the time to coppice woods, since the birds will be nesting. Even my chimney sweep knows that, and he’s 8.

Bit early isn't it? We're still in winter here which is prime time for tree work. I was just laying some hawthornes the other week. Although the pigeons seem to be nesting year-round, nothing else is.

[SueEllen]

I choose to do it. Like the queen doing the dishes.

Mmmm....

I don't see your brand of chain saw for purchase.

The Queen has her own brand of washing up liquid - https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/21/queen...-pop-16315558/

[vetran]

Close to the same size as this one (Which The Wife^TM got as a birthday present):
https://www.mowers2go.co.uk/machines...rdless-pruner/ (She was happy with 4")


Others I have include:
https://www.terriertools.co.uk/stihl...er_41822000160 (12")

And this one:
https://www.hughiewillett.co.uk/prod...81-chainsaw-16 (16")


Also have a couple of electric ones.

the wife is just being polite no women is happy with 4 inches, ask Warty!

[WTFH]

Surely you just tell your outdoors staff to go and coppice one of your woods? AYCOTBAC?

Now is not the time to coppice woods, since the birds will be nesting. Even my chimney sweep knows that, and he’s 8.