Reply to: oops truth versus wokery

[SueEllen]

So his first two wives he remained friends with and his third wife took him for $12 million. Must be his fault!

It was for being a bad judge of character.

(I was going to link to a song but decided due to the artist's recent behaviour it was inappropriate.)

[vetran]

No I'd never heard that. Got any other pearls of wisdom?

Obviously you'd be an apologist for a grumpy unpleasant old man... self loathing otherwise.

Oh you know Mr Cleese?

I love how people know these celebs so well having never met them.

He must be a terrible man because he had to work to support his ex wife to the tune of $600,000 a year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ettlement.html

'Apparently I got off lightly because my lawyer points out how much more I would have had to pay my ex-wife had she contributed anything to the relationship... if we had children, or even a two-way conversation.'

is rather cutting.

First shot: The comedian married first wife, American writer and actress Connie Booth (pictured with him in 2009), in 1968. The couple split while penning the second series of Fawlty Towers, but remained close friends

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...h-aged-68.html

During her time at Oxford, she had a brief marriage to a fellow student names Giles Trentham, and opted to keep his surname even after they split.

The pair divorced in 1990 after nine years of marriage, but remained on good terms, with Cleese saying at the time: 'Babs and I have a really good friendship and that’s the right relationship for us.'

So his first two wives he remained friends with and his third wife took him for $12 million. Must be his fault!

[d000hg]

You know it takes two to get married?.

No I'd never heard that. Got any other pearls of wisdom?

Obviously you'd be an apologist for a grumpy unpleasant old man... self loathing otherwise.

[vetran]

Are you good at ducking? Otherwise Beyonce would be safer as long as you keep her sister sweet.

I'm good at most things that end end "ucking"

[SueEllen]

To the best of my knowledge he hasn't assaulted anyone and the divorces were mainly civil so yes going from obscurity to $12 million dollars in the bank does ensure a softer landing. I'm happy to shack up with Beyonce or even Naomi Campbell for $12 million. You know it takes two to get married?
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Are you good at ducking? Otherwise Beyonce would be safer as long as you keep her sister sweet.

[vetran]

Well they have to put up with you... anyway Mr C has been known as prickly since his 20s


So if they got paid off they must be fine? Money fixes everything.

To the best of my knowledge he hasn't assaulted anyone and the divorces were mainly civil so yes going from obscurity to $12 million dollars in the bank does ensure a softer landing. I'm happy to shack up with Beyonce or even Naomi Campbell for $12 million. You know it takes two to get married?

Other celebrities renowned as being prickly are available, as his reputation precedes him and his wives weren't teenagers one really has to believe the wives knew what they were getting into. He hardly went full on Johnny Depp style bad husbands.

[d000hg]

I don't know many octogenarians or divas who aren't prickly.

Well they have to put up with you... anyway Mr C has been known as prickly since his 20s

Yeah because only 50% of marriages end in divorce and divorcees sometimes become serial divorcees. Its pretty difficult for Mr Cleese to marry up based on fame or entertainment talent. Don't cry for the ex wives generally they did very well out of it financially.

So if they got paid off they must be fine? Money fixes everything.

[vetran]

So...

3. Slavery (aka Permiedom)
2. Contractor
1. Prostitute

Got it.

Spending a night with NLyUK you probably have got it!


1. NLyUK's profession.
2. War.
3. What do we do with all these captives? lets sell them as slaves. That reasoning works for slave traders since the dawn of time!

[NotAllThere]

Well saying the history of humans is pretty universally horrible and slavery is the third oldest profession is accurate and fair.

So...

3. Slavery (aka Permiedom)
2. Contractor
1. Prostitute

Got it.

[vetran]

He's increasingly got form in this area. Pretty outspoken, generally with good reason but not always put in the most useful way
He's well known as a somewhat spiky and 'difficult' character, like many artists. Brilliant but doesn't suffer fools* gladly.

*in his view quite a lot of people

Well saying the history of humans is pretty universally horrible and slavery is the third oldest profession is accurate and fair.

Though it does spoil the prevailing narrative that the naughty white man invented slavery, us Africans didn't enslave or sell anyone. This is despite records that prove 90% of African slaves were sold by their countrymen a practice that was country wide a 1000 years before the westerners arrived, we want oodles of dosh NOW!

That is the problem with telling a lie you can't fool all the people all the time!

[vetran]

Judging by the number of wives he's had, who can't all be at fault surely, and probably none are, Cleese must be a pretty overbearing and maybe neurotic character in real life.

Perhaps in his Basil Fawlty role, he didn't have to act very much and was basically playing himself!

I don't know many octogenarians or divas who aren't prickly.

Yeah because only 50% of marriages end in divorce and divorcees sometimes become serial divorcees. Its pretty difficult for Mr Cleese to marry up based on fame or entertainment talent. Don't cry for the ex wives generally they did very well out of it financially.

[d000hg]

That's his career ended.

He's increasingly got form in this area. Pretty outspoken, generally with good reason but not always put in the most useful way
He's well known as a somewhat spiky and 'difficult' character, like many artists. Brilliant but doesn't suffer fools* gladly.

*in his view quite a lot of people

[OwlHoot]

Judging by the number of wives he's had, who can't all be at fault surely, and probably none are, Cleese must be a pretty overbearing and maybe neurotic character in real life.

Perhaps in his Basil Fawlty role, he didn't have to act very much and was basically playing himself!

[xoggoth]

To sum up, it's not racist to say that all humans, whatever their race, have the same flaws.

[xoggoth]

Pointing to world history being 'a history of crime', he added: 'It's a history of people who were stronger beating up people who were weaker and it's always been that. It's deeply, deeply distasteful.

Mustn't reference any facts of course.

Totally agree with Cleese, the only reason the British Empire was so big was because, at the time, we were an advanced nation. If any other nation had been in our position they would have done the same thing. Some countries treated colonised people worse than the British, check out the Belgium empire.