Reply to: Nobody told him it was his birthday.

[d000hg]

Oh I'm not blaming Labour - they're quite right that it's ridiculous. It just heightens the farce that when the police backtrack and decide to investigate, it stops the investigation which actually matters. Well, unless they apply the 10k fine to the organiser rather than a handful of £50 (or whatever they were) individual fines to those present.

[WTFH]

So they can't release the report, which is where all the damning information is, for fear it will interfere in an investigation which could land Boris a £50 fixed penalty for eating a cheese & pickle sandwich.
Labour, who wanted the police to be involved, are now blaming the government that the police are involved.

I wish HIGNFY was running.

Labour wanted the police involved when the government and police said there was nothing wrong. The government then said they would have an independent inquiry.

So, to blame Labour for this is a bit of straw-clutching. If it had been a police matter from the start, and the police were considered impartial, then that would have been great. Now we have 2 inquiries, where one can't publish because it will detract from the other, and when the police find no wrongdoing, the Gray report will be sidelined as irrelevant.

[d000hg]

So they can't release the report, which is where all the damning information is, for fear it will interfere in an investigation which could land Boris a £50 fixed penalty for eating a cheese & pickle sandwich.
Labour, who wanted the police to be involved, are now blaming the government that the police are involved.

I wish HIGNFY was running.

[WTFH]

Unclear how BBC and Sky are not MSM.

I'm not saying they aren't. I'm saying that some MSM sources were running the story, while others were still on "Look at Madonna" and "Isn't Joe Biden Old", almost like they didn't want to run with it.

[SueEllen]

Unclear how BBC and Sky are not MSM.

They are both biased.

[d000hg]

Unclear how BBC and Sky are not MSM.

[SueEllen]

Since the Torygraph, Wail and Express aren't running the story yet, here's the nearest I could find in the Hull Daily Mail (Definitely not "main Stream")

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...tement-6563163

The Met have asked Sue Gray to remove all the bits from her report that might be about the things she was supposed to investigate.
It's in Sky, BBC, Independent, LES, Mirror, S*n, but not yet in the 3 MSM named in the first sentence.

I saw it in a main stream news source.

[Unix]

Since the Torygraph, Wail and Express aren't running the story yet, here's the nearest I could find in the Hull Daily Mail (Definitely not "main Stream")

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...tement-6563163

The Met have asked Sue Gray to remove all the bits from her report that might be about the things she was supposed to investigate.
It's in Sky, BBC, Independent, LES, Mirror, S*n, but not yet in the 3 MSM named in the first sentence.

Let the whitewash begin...this never ends well, the public will see through this and Tories are finished unless they get rid of the trolley ASAP.

[WTFH]

Since the Torygraph, Wail and Express aren't running the story yet, here's the nearest I could find in the Hull Daily Mail (Definitely not "main Stream")

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...tement-6563163

The Met have asked Sue Gray to remove all the bits from her report that might be about the things she was supposed to investigate.
It's in Sky, BBC, Independent, LES, Mirror, S*n, but not yet in the 3 MSM named in the first sentence.

[SueEllen]

Particularly during Covid one might accuse them of being a government mouthpiece BUT one might well argue the press has an ethical responsibility to promote things like war-efforts, vaccination programs, etc so I think we can consider that a special case.

Nearly all broadcasters were government mouthpieces during lockdown.

I suspect that some like the BBC have it in their charter/license that they have to be government mouthpieces during national emergencies. Even those that weren't had to comply by OFCOM standards - https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-an...nd-coronavirus

In addition the streaming companies and telecoms companies were requested by governments and supra-national organisations to help.

[d000hg]

But the fact that the right and far right consider the BBC left wing, and the left and far left consider it right wing, that to me says it's doing a fairly balanced job. If the sources you rely on claim that it is heavily slanted away from you, then maybe check other sources.

Agreed. It does a pretty good job on left/right bias although one could claim it has a pro-government bias. As much as by stories they don't report, or the way their language mirrors the governments.
Particularly during Covid one might accuse them of being a government mouthpiece BUT one might well argue the press has an ethical responsibility to promote things like war-efforts, vaccination programs, etc so I think we can consider that a special case.

[SueEllen]

Ahh PMQs time.

[Paralytic]

Now go back and read my post again. There's a subtle clue that we're not talking about BJ.

But that's against the rules - all posts have to be about Johnson. So, point stands

[d000hg]

Are you serious? Johnson is the epitome of someone who changes what he says to appease the audience he's addressing at that point in time.

Now go back and read my post again. There's a subtle clue that we're not talking about BJ.

[Paralytic]

There a is a sense in which I like the fact he refuses to change how he carries himself just to be more popular, and he's normally an arse to make a valid point - but hardly a vote-winner.

Are you serious? Johnson is the epitome of someone who changes what he says to appease the audience he's addressing at that point in time.