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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Warty seems to be suggesting this is a good thing though. Books with homophobic protagonists should be banned, etc. Lots of people believe this, even if he doesn't. TV shows that satirise racism or homophobia are pulling that content, etc.
    Are you suggesting that the bible and it's homophobia is akin to satire? Inneresting ....

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    And that Fairies wear boots!

    They do!

    I see them running around the streets in wellies.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post


    I was with you until you posted that as science never stands still. So these "Wokers" - as you call them - are going to prove what we currently know about humans is wrong.
    And that Fairies wear boots!

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

    That can't possibly happen as they don't follow the scientific method. They just make things up and say they're true, and, crucially, refuse to hear any argument against it.
    Sush!

    You are suppose to give them the benefit of the doubt and ask them to prove their hypothesis.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post


    I was with you until you posted that as science never stands still. So these "Wokers" - as you call them - are going to prove what we currently know about humans is wrong.
    That can't possibly happen as they don't follow the scientific method. They just make things up and say they're true, and, crucially, refuse to hear any argument against it.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
    Religious texts though are protected despite zero evidence of a god.
    That's because the believers outnumber the non-believers. So don't get too lippy, you infidel.

    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    Actually the original fairy tales and their donor stories make parts of the bible look a bit tame. Obviously excluding the big murders - God drowning the world but saving Gilgamesh/Noah, Herod's infanticide etc.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fairy...tory_b_6102602

    Apparently Cinderella's prince was a bit like AtW and had a squirrel fetish.

    https://theculturetrip.com/europe/un...g-fairy-tales/

    https://theculturetrip.com/europe/ge...rothers-grimm/
    Indeed. Check out the film "Tale of Tales".

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    A proven scientific fact .
    I was with you until you posted that as science never stands still. So these "Wokers" - as you call them - are going to prove what we currently know about humans is wrong.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Just view the cancelling of JK Rowling for suggesting there are biological difference between those born as a Man and those born as a Woman - A proven scientific fact that the Wokers believe is incorrect.
    Warty seems to be suggesting this is a good thing though. Books with homophobic protagonists should be banned, etc. Lots of people believe this, even if he doesn't. TV shows that satirise racism or homophobia are pulling that content, etc.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
    zero evidence of a god.
    Ignoring the weakness of that assertion as being somewhat boring to argue, where is your evidence for beauty or morality? For that matter where is your evidence that homophobia or racism is bad? Books extolling the virtues of humanism sound like just fairytales to me, giving people the false impression that they matter, in any sense, in a cold uncaring universe.


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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    Yes.

    People still write discriminatory drivel and even worse can self-publish on sites like Amazon.


    I believe he is suggesting in the mainstream not some minority Authors. I doubt many of the books on the times best seller list overtly encourage discrimination.

    Just view the cancelling of JK Rowling for suggesting there are biological difference between those born as a Man and those born as a Woman - A proven scientific fact that the Wokers believe is incorrect.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

    You're surprised fairy tale books are still legal to sell? Weird.
    Actually the original fairy tales and their donor stories make parts of the bible look a bit tame. Obviously excluding the big murders - God drowning the world but saving Gilgamesh/Noah, Herod's infanticide etc.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fairy...tory_b_6102602

    Apparently Cinderella's prince was a bit like AtW and had a squirrel fetish.

    https://theculturetrip.com/europe/un...g-fairy-tales/

    https://theculturetrip.com/europe/ge...rothers-grimm/

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
    Do you really think that if someone wrote a fiction book today, with the same content and messages that are present in religious texts, that they would be allowed?
    Eh? People write stuff like that all the time.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by Whorty View Post

    I think it's more the fact these fairy tale books have homo-phobic as well as other undesirable content that is surprising. I think Harry Potter level fairy tale books are fine.

    Do you really think that if someone wrote a fiction book today, with the same content and messages that are present in religious texts, that they would be allowed?
    Yes.

    People still write discriminatory drivel and even worse can self-publish on sites like Amazon.


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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

    You're surprised fairy tale books are still legal to sell? Weird.
    I think it's more the fact these fairy tale books have homo-phobic as well as other undesirable content that is surprising. I think Harry Potter level fairy tale books are fine.

    Do you really think that if someone wrote a fiction book today, with the same content and messages that are present in religious texts, that they would be allowed? Religious texts though are protected despite zero evidence of a god.

    I'm all for allowing people to believe whatever they want, but I'm not up for allowing bigoted views and the preaching of these views being protected because it's 'religious'.

    As for these specific sellers, they're bigoted idiots.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Humans don't work on pure logic though. Nostalgia and illogical sentimentality are part of who we are. To switch it around, it's actually quite common that sellers will perhaps choose a buyer (if there are multiple offers) based on who they like best, or to give a new family a house they will love, even if it's not quite the highest offer. We just sold our first ever home and preferred a charity who would use it to home veterans (or something like that) even though they couldn't quite match a higher option from some professional landlord.

    Legally or morally? Where do you find this judgement?
    Oh sure you can decide based on who you like but the next house was very popular and we needed to move fast. They were cash buyers £0.5 million quid in the bank apparently.

    Both actually. I see sexuality to frequently be biological based so its not a moral issue and legally if proven it would be discrimination.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/la...iscrimination/

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