Reply to: Leaving for better money

[malvolio]

If you do it too often your CV won't look good - multiple short gigs are a red flag.

Not if your job is to go in and fix something that isn't working properly...

The world outside CUK is not black and white, sadly.

[Gibbon]

But wearing a new disguise and false identity each time should be mentioned.

Oi, I resemble that remark, Shhhhhhhhh!

[TheDude]

If you do it too often your CV won't look good - multiple short gigs are a red flag.

[KentDogWalker]

And there is the unknown of duration with the new one so on the face of it I don't think I'd be jumping at this point but it's purely a personal decision. Just doesn't sound enough for me to be quitting a gig early but that's me.

But wearing a new disguise and false identity each time should be mentioned.

ROFFFLLLL

[d000hg]

Gawd this thread is full of wind! In 22 years never had a problem leaving a contract before end date, all clients have had me back at some point. In fact don't think I've ever left on the contract end date. Mostly I leave after a delivery or the underlying contract is ended. Even once walked out with no notice and they still had me back.

But wearing a new disguise and false identity each time should be mentioned.

[Gibbon]

Gawd this thread is full of wind! In 22 years never had a problem leaving a contract before end date, all clients have had me back at some point. In fact don't think I've ever left on the contract end date. Mostly I leave after a delivery or the underlying contract is ended. Even once walked out with no notice and they still had me back.

[jamesbrown]

Which is what I was referring to in the first response to the question and every post since then (including this one) has just been noise

I think you were making a different point about a single client. My point is that, when you’re not a bum-on-seat average contractor, you live by your reputation, and acting like a cretin travels fast.

[Paralytic]

To a point. Putting aside good manners, it depends how niche you are, for example. If there are a few hundred potential clients worldwide, then "good business" means considering more than just short-term profit.

Which is what I was referring to in the first response to the question and every post since then (including this one) has just been noise

[jamesbrown]

Not the same thing - a client offers you a contract with a notice period which you invoke is completely different to a builder walking off a job when a better offer comes along.

To a point. Putting aside good manners, it depends how niche you are, for example. If there are a few hundred potential clients worldwide, then "good business" means considering more than just short-term profit.

[d000hg]

Not the same thing - a client offers you a contract with a notice period which you invoke is completely different to a builder walking off a job when a better offer comes along.

This is a fair point, notice periods exist to be used. It might be bad manners but it's not unethical to exercise it.

[Paralytic]

And we'd, well most of us, would call out builders doing that as wrong (assuming no other underlying issues with the working relationship) and yet as IT specialists some of us think it's OK to do something similar.

By all means change roles if there are other issues at stake, but purely to chase the dollar ..... it will eventually come back to bite you I think.

Not the same thing - a client offers you a contract with a notice period which you invoke is completely different to a builder walking off a job when a better offer comes along.

[d000hg]

Anyone thinking otherwise is thinking and/or acting like an employee, not a business.

Only if you think "acting like a business" means "nothing matters except the bottom line". Which isn't typically the case, businesses have to balance profit with ethics just like contractors.

[KentDogWalker]

You mean they have been hired for a defined project to complete? There should be penalty clauses in the contract if that is what is intended.

This sounds like a day labourer.

You know the client would drop you like a hot potato if they found someone 28% cheaper?

Its a business relationship the only moral decisions are where the client is not obeying the law (do you report, run away or stay and take the filthy lucre?) or working in the best interests of the world.

lol, filthy lucre, added to my daily terms

https://filthylucre.com/

[Whorty]

I'd not sign a contract with a builder where they could give notice part-way through the job. The contract would be for stage payments as work progresses, with a final payment on completion meaning they'd be out of pocket if they left early.

Interestingly, review any local facebook group, and you'll probably see posts from people whose builders have left part way through a job for a better gig and where they're looking for someone to pick up the work.

And we'd, well most of us, would call out builders doing that as wrong (assuming no other underlying issues with the working relationship) and yet as IT specialists some of us think it's OK to do something similar.

By all means change roles if there are other issues at stake, but purely to chase the dollar ..... it will eventually come back to bite you I think.

[Whorty]

I don't believe that at all. Once you are in they don't carry on recruiting. I am sure if they auctioned the role off someone would come in cheaper just to get off the bench but they don't so I'd say that's wholly wrong.

And chasing the dollar isn't the one and only thing in business. If it was then business would be pure anarchy.

I think you've a very blinkered view there which has leads you to saying things that are just not true at all.

That, and he's stalking every post I put on CUK to write something contradictory. It gives me warmth that someone reads my every post and takes time out of their day to respond. Makes me feel valued