Reply to: I'm going to get high...

[SueEllen]

unfortunately, as I want to keep my job, it pays for the shiny things you know

After this evenings incident I hope there are a lot more like you.

[Halo Jones]

I thought tube and train drivers were randomly tested as well as being tested routinely after an accident.

Yeah but you are boring I mean responsible.

unfortunately, as I want to keep my job, it pays for the shiny things you know

[SueEllen]

They do, as do all workers on or near the rail, in the last 5yrs I have had 3 random d&a tests

all negative before you ask

Yeah but you are boring <cough> I mean responsible.

[Halo Jones]

I thought tube and train drivers were randomly tested as well as being tested routinely after an accident.

They do, as do all workers on or near the rail, in the last 5yrs I have had 3 random d&a tests

all negative before you ask

although it’s always fun when before the test they ask you what meds you have taken in the last week - the little box on the form is never big enough!

[vetran]

I thought tube and train drivers were randomly tested as well as being tested routinely after an accident.

Well you would think so but as mentioned if they don't crack down on speeding a bit of sniff is hardly going to make them worry.

[Gibbon]

But how long after taking to the affects not impair the user? Most people will know about alcohol but I'd bet most of the drug users don't really know.

Cannabis takes ages - days in fact, it get stored in fat cells and then slowly re-releases into the system. When a brill cream NCO I went on a training course to spot potential miscreants. In a young lass/lad a heavy weekend alcohol session effect on performance would be noticeable for the Mon AM improving during the afternoon. A cannabis sess (and this was weak stuff) would be noticeable up to about Wednesday AM, even from a Friday smoke out.

[northernladuk]

I know prisoners start taking heroin if there are random/routine drug tests as it passes through your system quicker than cannabis.

I thought a service like this https://www.talktofrank.com/ would tell you how long each drug lasts in your system.

Looks up cannabis - yep it does.

But how long after taking to the affects not impair the user? Most people will know about alcohol but I'd bet most of the drug users don't really know.

[Gibbon]

Last time I travelled by rail there were several near misses with trains travelling in the opposite direction - you have to wonder what these drivers are playing at.

That should be sorted by signalling.

[SueEllen]

Last time I travelled by rail there were several near misses with trains travelling in the opposite direction - you have to wonder what these drivers are playing at.

Chicken on a railway line?

[TheDude]

Last time I travelled by rail there were several near misses with trains travelling in the opposite direction - you have to wonder what these drivers are playing at.

[SueEllen]

We all know how alcohol works, time in system, effects on you and the like but I'll bet a vast majority of people, including the people that use the drugs don't understand it to the same level as alcohol. I certainly don't but from what I understand is the effects of cocaine only last a short period but it stays in your system for up to 4 days. So what I don't understand about the article is... under the effects mean he was actually on a high and had been taking it in the last few hours or he's been found with it in his system from possibly the weekend? Same for cannabis. It can stay in your system for many days so if someone had a smoke at the weekend would they fail a roadside test 4 days later and if they did does it still impair their ability to drive?

I know prisoners start taking heroin if there are random/routine drug tests as it passes through your system quicker than cannabis.

Until they start doing public announcements and give post drug taking affects the air time and take it as seriously as they do alcohol then people aren't going to change.

I thought a service like this https://www.talktofrank.com/ would tell you how long each drug lasts in your system.

Looks up cannabis - yep it does.

[SueEllen]

It should come under standard procedure for all PSV drivers to be tested regularly not just 'routinely' after an accident as I suspect the twisted words mean.

If he had been tested before driving the train many people would have been safer.

I thought tube and train drivers were randomly tested as well as being tested routinely after an accident.

[vetran]

What on not doing regular drug and alcohol testing as a deterrent? Wonder what that comes under under the various H&S acts?

It should come under standard procedure for all PSV drivers to be tested regularly not just 'routinely' after an accident as I suspect the twisted words mean.

If he had been tested before driving the train many people would have been safer.

[northernladuk]

We all know how alcohol works, time in system, effects on you and the like but I'll bet a vast majority of people, including the people that use the drugs don't understand it to the same level as alcohol. I certainly don't but from what I understand is the effects of cocaine only last a short period but it stays in your system for up to 4 days. So what I don't understand about the article is... under the effects mean he was actually on a high and had been taking it in the last few hours or he's been found with it in his system from possibly the weekend? Same for cannabis. It can stay in your system for many days so if someone had a smoke at the weekend would they fail a roadside test 4 days later and if they did does it still impair their ability to drive?

Until they start doing public announcements and give post drug taking affects the air time and take it as seriously as they do alcohol then people aren't going to change.

[SueEllen]

Send a few bosses to prison. Focus their minds.

What on not doing regular drug and alcohol testing as a deterrent? Wonder what that comes under under the various H&S acts?