Reply to: The big aerosol blunder

[ladymuck]

Sadly as suggested by the TB experiment if every public indoor space had UV air treatment we could significantly cut transmission of many airborne diseases.

Hardly expensive now. Maybe we can do it on planes as well?

The air is replaced about 20-30 times an hour on an aircraft so is already quite clean. However, if it doesn't add much weight to an aircraft (as that affects how much fuel is needed and therefore the cost of flying) then it could be a useful extra 'belt and braces' approach.

[vetran]

Sadly as suggested by the TB experiment if every public indoor space had UV air treatment we could significantly cut transmission of many airborne diseases.

Hardly expensive now. Maybe we can do it on planes as well?

[Gibbon]

This is so true, and if they're disparaging and dismissive of other academics imagine what they're like with amateurs and lay peope!

Some doctors too in my experience.

Did I tell you of my hernia experience?

[OwlHoot]

I shared the article with HWMBO and his first comment was "ego". There's a heck of a lot of people with inflated egos in the sciences. It's not the noble endeavour of hollywood movies, it's who you know, whether your theories are fashionable, whether someone more powerful than you supports your idea, or if your theory contradicts dogma or someone more esteemed than you.

And cross-discipline scientists are often looked down upon as being the worst of them all yet it's often the multi-disciplinary approach that brings the most benefits.

This is so true, and if they're disparaging and dismissive of other academics imagine what they're like with amateurs and lay peope!

[vetran]

Good to know. But what do you wear on your face?

A beard?

[cojak]

But initially they didn't recommend face masks at all - I remember the woman advisor saying that (I wore the old t-shirt face masks at that point).

[cojak]

But was your opinion based on aerosol science or common sense. Common sense is more often wrong than science - logically then, it's better to stick to science. It won't guarantee your survival, but it will overall increase the chances. So while you might feel justified, really you were just lucky.

I possibly was lucky - I do know that mask wearing protects the public more than the person wearing a mask.

I just thought it more sensible that if you should wear a mask if you have a cold, you should also wear a mask if you potentially have Covid. Spraying your spit around the place never seemed like a good idea to me.

[NotAllThere]

I quickly dumped the old t-shirts for the single-use face masks.

Good to know. But what do you wear on your face?

[cojak]

I think that's opposite isn't it? They wanted face masks, proper ones rather than bits of old t-shirt, because it's an airborne spreader?

I quickly dumped the old t-shirts for the single-use face masks.

[minestrone]

The virus spreads most effectively in the immediate vicinity of a contagious person, which is to say that most of the time it looks an awful lot like a textbook droplet-based pathogen.

So "it looks an awful lot like" lower standard masks will work.

Anyway, the WHO...

"It's not contagious", "won't get out of china", "don't stop flying" and "masks don't work".

Let's face it, they are utterly crap and Trump was right to ditch them. Caprice showed more insight.

[ladymuck]

I shared the article with HWMBO and his first comment was "ego". There's a heck of a lot of people with inflated egos in the sciences. It's not the noble endeavour of hollywood movies, it's who you know, whether your theories are fashionable, whether someone more powerful than you supports your idea, or if your theory contradicts dogma or someone more esteemed than you.

And cross-discipline scientists are often looked down upon as being the worst of them all yet it's often the multi-disciplinary approach that brings the most benefits.

[vetran]

This is truly terrifying after all these years of study such basic errors go unchallenged. One thing is clear the pandemic has forced us to re-examine many of our preconceptions.

The only positive is it seems though millions will die from covid now many more may be saved in the future by a better understanding of viruses overall.

[NotAllThere]

I feel somewhat justified in ignoring early advice not to bother with face masks then...

But was your opinion based on aerosol science or common sense. Common sense is more often wrong than science <citation needed > - logically then, it's better to stick to science. It won't guarantee your survival, but it will overall increase the chances. So while you might feel justified, really you were just lucky.

[ladymuck]

I feel somewhat justified in ignoring early advice not to bother with face masks then...

I think that's opposite isn't it? They wanted face masks, proper ones rather than bits of old t-shirt, because it's an airborne spreader?

[cojak]

I feel somewhat justified in ignoring early advice not to bother with face masks then...