Paying for the many

[d000hg]

It was in the local rag, talking about 1870 ish, remember though up until just WWII mines were in private hands, and probably depended on local labour pools. A lot of mill workers (my grandfather been one) in Bradford for instance after the war ended up in the mines as the pay was 4 times more. They were back filled by commonwealth citizens.

Oh, OK that makes more sense. Thanks.

[d000hg]

https://today-india.in/world-news/la...rmer-colonies/

Well Labour have to find some way to stay unelectable with Boris in charge. This ought to do it.

[Gibbon]

That's interesting because around here (Durham) miners were paid quite well - though it was a very gruelling job - and there was support for ex-miners.

It was in the local rag, talking about 1870 ish, remember though up until just WWII mines were in private hands, and probably depended on local labour pools. A lot of mill workers (my grandfather been one) in Bradford for instance after the war ended up in the mines as the pay was 4 times more. They were back filled by commonwealth citizens.

[Colour Sergeant Bourne]

“In recognition of the previous wrongdoings of the British state, the brand new structure ought to make an unreserved apology to all the nations of the world that the empire invaded and negatively impacted.“In addition, the British state ought to arrange a reparations fund as a part of the structure, which gives monetary help to communities the world over that may present loss and detriment on account of the actions of the British state.”

What price for our efforts at Rorke's Drift?

[vetran]

That's interesting because around here (Durham) miners were paid quite well - though it was a very gruelling job - and there was support for ex-miners.

are you talking post 1900 or during the early part of the Empire?

Before unionisation any non land owner was a serf. Craftsmen may earn more and gain respect but basically you were disposable.

[d000hg]

Depends on where you were. If you were a miner at Stainforth colliery near Barnsley then life was awful. Paid just enough to pay your rent and get inflated priced provisions from the owners shop, and maybe a bit of beer. If you died down the pit or were injured so couldn't work you lost the house and were turfed out penniless.

That's interesting because around here (Durham) miners were paid quite well - though it was a very gruelling job - and there was support for ex-miners.

[Gibbon]

The working class ancestors of many people of British heritage did not benefit from the empire and worked in conditions hardly better than those of slaves.

Depends on where you were. If you were a miner at Stainforth colliery near Barnsley then life was awful. Paid just enough to pay your rent and get inflated priced provisions from the owners shop, and maybe a bit of beer. If you died down the pit or were injured so couldn't work you lost the house and were turfed out penniless.

If you were a mill worker at Saltaire then life was better, if you gave up alcohol, and your children got educated so helping them get out of poverty.

They had to stop miners joining up in WW1 as so many of them couldn't resist the luxury of decent clothing and 3 meals a day. The risk of death and injury weren't much different.

[NotAllThere]

Can we get a rebate though for the system of government, judiciary and the railway system in India?

These socialist types are silly (as opposed to other socialist types). No wonder they end up trying to foment revolution - they'd never win an election.

[_V_]

Calculate the GDP per capita before British rule, calculate it now, adjusting for inflation. No doubt they owe us money.

[jayn200]

Didn't read but wonder if they think UK should have to pay reparations to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, USA, Hong Kong, Singapore, UAE, The Bahamas, Maldives, Seychelles, Bahrain, Barbados, Cyprus, Malta and whatever other former colonies are doing great or if they even mention that?

[xoggoth]

Simplistic crap to say all British citizens have a debt to all Commonwealth citizens. Many of today's UK citizens came from those places, or their forebears did. The working class ancestors of many people of British heritage did not benefit from the empire and worked in conditions hardly better than those of slaves. Then there were some in those other countries who were complicit in it all.

[BrilloPad]

The UK must create a time machine and go back to change its past wrong-doings.

While there, can I say "I don't" every time I am asked?

[vetran]

https://today-india.in/world-news/la...rmer-colonies/

The 234-page doc, titled ‘Remaking of the British State: For the Many, Not the Few’, lays out a program for presidency ought to Labor win a common election. It stated: “Socialists ought to search to reorder the British state and hardwire the structure in favor of socialist aims.”

The report acknowledged: “In recognition of the previous wrongdoings of the British state, the brand new structure ought to make an unreserved apology to all the nations of the world that the empire invaded and negatively impacted.“In addition, the British state ought to arrange a reparations fund as a part of the structure, which gives monetary help to communities the world over that may present loss and detriment on account of the actions of the British state.”

Financial funds must be made out of taxpayers’ cash if “the British state owed the claimants in query an obligation of care” in accordance to the doc.
There has been a renewed give attention to the impression of British imperialism and racial justice following final summer time’s Black Lives Matter protests.