Reply to: Help us prevent trans-exclusionary bathroom laws in the UK!

[vetran]

So some guy is going to knock you out and run off with your kid? Sounds a fearful way to live.

The way I've always seen it done is the parent takes the child into the cubicle and both do their business there. They're never separated.

Although when I was wee you'd just be sent in and they'd wait for you outside. This obsession with children being abducted is crazy. You might as well live in a bungalow because statistically stairs are dangerous.

and when you have 2-3 children with you?

[vetran]

In the sea. Wonder why the guys weren't doing that either?

we do and we use it rather than curtains!

[SueEllen]

They tried this at a client site a couple of years ago, they turned some of the female facilities into unisex or whatever the term is. They said it was to increase toilets for men as the gender balance was 90/10 m/f. But co-incidentally a couple of men had just declared they were trans. Anyway men were fine with them, but no women used them and the trans girls complained that they were the only females in there! To be fair at a lot of places I've worked the cubicles have not been so private, i.e really just a couple of boards between and very small so your'e in close proximity to your neighbour and in some cases you can without trying see the dropped trolleys. if the cubicles were large and true floor to ceiling it would help.

Although at a train station café on Lake Garda there were two bathrooms with sofas outside, but the doors were smoked glass and there was another window at the other side so giving full illumination. And they were holes in the floor too. Wife made me satnd with my back to the door to give her some privacy!

To turn toilets into unisex ones they need to be single toilets with their own hand basin and not a line of cubicles.

Oh and one of my former clients at one site due to the male/female ratio stuck the female toilets at the furthest corner of each floor. In doing that they pissed all the women off as you don't want to be stared at by every person as you make your way to the toilet. Luckily for me I worked there less than one day a month.

[Lance]

If you're gender-fluid this is going to get confusing.

I don’t want to know what you do with your ‘gender fluid’.....

[_V_]

If you're gender-fluid this is going to get confusing.

So much choice in that case :-)

[d000hg]

I learned from the BBC that there are over 100 different genders. So basically every toilet needs to have > 100 cubicles, one for each identity.

Happy to help.

If you're gender-fluid this is going to get confusing.

[Lance]

one person at a time. No problem there. Anyone can use it.

[_V_]

I learned from the BBC that there are over 100 different genders. So basically every toilet needs to have > 100 cubicles, one for each identity.

Happy to help.

[Gibbon]

They tried this at a client site a couple of years ago, they turned some of the female facilities into unisex or whatever the term is. They said it was to increase toilets for men as the gender balance was 90/10 m/f. But co-incidentally a couple of men had just declared they were trans. Anyway men were fine with them, but no women used them and the trans girls complained that they were the only females in there! To be fair at a lot of places I've worked the cubicles have not been so private, i.e really just a couple of boards between and very small so your'e in close proximity to your neighbour and in some cases you can without trying see the dropped trolleys. if the cubicles were large and true floor to ceiling it would help.

Although at a train station café on Lake Garda there were two bathrooms with sofas outside, but the doors were smoked glass and there was another window at the other side so giving full illumination. And they were holes in the floor too. Wife made me satnd with my back to the door to give her some privacy!

[d000hg]

FTFY

Because statistically men are more likely to be abductors.

So some guy is going to knock you out and run off with your kid? Sounds a fearful way to live.

The way I've always seen it done is the parent takes the child into the cubicle and both do their business there. They're never separated.

Although when I was wee you'd just be sent in and they'd wait for you outside. This obsession with children being abducted is crazy. You might as well live in a bungalow because statistically stairs are dangerous.

[Eirikur]

Where did the women pee?

In the sea. Wonder why the guys weren't doing that either?

[vetran]

Massive smile or laugh?

Did she say "Oh look its like a penis. Only smaller."?

Oh it was definitely a smile. Don't judge everyone by your equipment!

[BrilloPad]

Time for the airport story.

I had just landed at Schiphol airport, fought my way through customs etc, spotted a toilet and popped in to point Percy at the porcelain. Standing at the urinal releasing a couple of cups of coffee an attractive blonde girl (about 20 years old) reached over me to polish the wall. She looked down at Percy , looked up and flashed me a massive smile, this was my first experience of male toilets cleaned by females.

Massive smile or laugh?

Did she say "Oh look its like a penis. Only smaller."?

[vetran]

Remember the country you landed in and as such I will refer you to this song...

Well as it was 30 years ago and she most definitely of female appearance, no obvious work done, very attractive (Mitch would), dressed in Airport female (skirt) cleaner attire, I am reasonably confident she was biologically female. I think she just realised I was a brit and she was taking the mick.


I checked on the way out and the sign said toilets may be cleaned by female cleaners.

[SueEllen]

Time for the airport story.

I had just landed at Schiphol airport, fought my way through customs etc, spotted a toilet and popped in to point Percy at the porcelain. Standing at the urinal releasing a couple of cups of coffee an attractive blonde girl (about 20 years old) reached over me to polish the wall. She looked down at Percy , looked up and flashed me a massive smile, this was my first experience of male toilets cleaned by females.

Remember the country you landed in and as such I will refer you to this song...