Reply to: Hmm who believes the NHS knows what its doing?

[Scoobos]

Unfortunately for your credibility all the scandals & incompetence we have been mentioning precede 2012.

Criticism of the National Health Service (England) - Wikipedia

We haven't seen what they have done recently because they are probably still hiding it.

Yeah lovely, and how exactly, does privatisation change any of this? How does the Public Health Act offer anything?

Conservatives vote against motion to save NHS from privatisation – Keep Our NHS Public
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As a side note, regarding the pandemic response - I had to go to Scotland to offer my help , England was totally sewn up and NHS Digital was cut right out of the picture, from the information I have.

[NotAllThere]

But some things are run by private companies anyway.

Creeping privatisation. To be fair - I'm not against privatisation per se. But this government seems to be an exemplar for capitalism cronyism. As condemned by Adam Smith.

[SueEllen]

That's because the tabloids want the NHS to be privatised.

But some things are run by private companies anyway.

[AtW]

That's because the tabloids want the NHS to be privatised.

Perhaps a very cheap and effective solution to this compleX problem is to nationalise tabloids?

I wonder if anybody thought of that before me

[NotAllThere]

One of the issues is that the successes in the NHS pass almost unannounced, where as the failures make page 1 of the tabloids.

That's because the tabloids want the NHS to be privatised.

[vetran]

Anyone asking why we blame Tories and not the NHS - read about the Public Health Act 2012. That, and everything that has come after it, pretty much nails it.

Unfortunately for your credibility all the scandals & incompetence we have been mentioning precede 2012.

Criticism of the National Health Service (England) - Wikipedia

We haven't seen what they have done recently because they are probably still hiding it.

[edison]

How come councils need to cut costs and reorganise but the NHS always needs more money and more staff?

How come Matt Hancock and Boris are always blamed for the failings of an organisation that employees 1.3million people and not the hordes of managers?

How come no one has ever heard of these people - NHS England >> NHS Executive Group

The NHS doesn't give the impression it knows what its doing

Councils are funded differently from the NHS. It's a mix of central government grants, council tax and business rates plus income where services are charged for. The proportion coming from central government fell significantly in the last decade, hence councils have to try and make up the shortfall. One that I worked for shrank staff numbers by about 40% in that time.

At the same time, the needs of vulnerable people are becoming more complex (mainly the ageing population) so adult social services budgets are stretched even more.

[NickFitz]

Ah yes, NHS to blame for government policy of chronically underfunding it, unable to get enough staff due to government inability in 4 years to secure a deal, unable to get appropriate PPE due to government policy of giving contracts to friends rather than those with experience and ability.

Not to mention the fact that it's an airborne (or at least aerosol-borne) virus. Unless they're able to put every single hospital bed in the country inside something like those secure compartments as seen in The Andromeda Strain, it's going to spread. All you can do is try to limit the spread, and if they weren't doing a decent job of that, the figures for hospital transmission would be considerably higher.

[vetran]

According to my doctor friends, their workload is increasing due to ageing population who needs all sort of tests and treatments

Well as the Nurses take the bloods and the laboratory examine the results they only have to talk to the patients if they want.

[Scoobos]

Anyone asking why we blame Tories and not the NHS - read about the Public Health Act 2012. That, and everything that has come after it, pretty much nails it.

[courtg9000]

How come councils need to cut costs and reorganise but the NHS always needs more money and more staff?

How come Matt Hancock and Boris are always blamed for the failings of an organisation that employees 1.3million people and not the hordes of managers?

How come no one has ever heard of these people - NHS England >> NHS Executive Group

The NHS doesn't give the impression it knows what its doing

I once sold one of that lot a Ford Mondeo (long time ago). He was the most "difficullt" customer I dealt with it that job.

[Andy2]

How come councils need to cut costs and reorganise but the NHS always needs more money and more staff?

According to my doctor friends, their workload is increasing due to ageing population who needs all sort of tests and treatments

[saptastic]

Throwing money at something is never the answer to solving everything.
That is 100% clear. Politicians just don't realise that.

[vetran]

How come councils need to cut costs and reorganise but the NHS always needs more money and more staff?

How come Matt Hancock and Boris are always blamed for the failings of an organisation that employees 1.3million people and not the hordes of managers?

How come no one has ever heard of these people - NHS England >> NHS Executive Group

The NHS doesn't give the impression it knows what its doing

spot on

[bingobob777]

How come councils need to cut costs and reorganise but the NHS always needs more money and more staff?

How come Matt Hancock and Boris are always blamed for the failings of an organisation that employees 1.3million people and not the hordes of managers?

How come no one has ever heard of these people - NHS England >> NHS Executive Group

The NHS doesn't give the impression it knows what its doing