Reply to: DOOM : UC Fraud

[DoctorStrangelove]

Erm three, Shirley?
You're forgetting FOAtW...

Three indeed.

It's not a FOaTw type thread since the original doomster wasn't aTw.

HTH.

[Zigenare]

Two ugly slaphead mofos.

It explains a lot.

Erm three, Shirley?
You're forgetting FOAtW...

[SueEllen]

And a good mate of Gove

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I knew about the Gove bit.

[darmstadt]

And a good mate of Gove

I didn't realise until recently Dominic Cummings worked for Iain Duncan tulip. (Or is that the other way round?)

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[DoctorStrangelove]

Two ugly slaphead mofos.

It explains a lot.

[SueEllen]

The whole universal credit system has been a fiasco from start to finish.

I didn't realise until recently Dominic Cummings worked for Iain Duncan tulip. (Or is that the other way round?)

[AtW]

If politicians were personally accountable for their actions there won’t be any alive other than in jail

[fullyautomatix]

Can we somehow make Boris or Sunak pay all this fraud cash back to the treasury? If they are not personally accountable they will keep pissing the tax payers’s billions in every which way they can.

[NotAllThere]

Until of course the masses decide its unfair the "rich people" get it

The more you earn, the more tax you pay, until it benefits you not a jot.

It'll probably happen someday. Funny thing, the first time I heard of it was a very right wing Cambridge don. It's about making the state as small as possible - that's a right wing ideology. (That I entirely agree with).

[vetran]

They could not arrange remote video call as part of application before paying out to at least get face of whoever claims?

Entirely valid check, plenty more simple checks possible.

[AtW]

They could not arrange remote video call as part of application before paying out to at least get face of whoever claims?

[vetran]

Universal income would solve may problems (i.e. everyone gets a basic income rich or poor). Gone are the masses of civil servants and bureaucracy used to calculate benefits. No-one falls through the net. No other top-ups are allowed. If you are working, fine the taxation system will resolve the balance. The world is not the same as 30+ years ago, there are no jobs for life, the benefit system is in a mess. Total reform is needed.

Until of course the masses decide its unfair the "rich people" get it. We have hundreds of means tested benefits, child benefit being one of the few that was universal until they decided people earning over £60k shouldn't get it.

I agree total reform is needed Universal credit was supposed to be that, constantly moving people toward work. Maybe its the idiots in charge that need reforming, this is basic stuff.

[Paddy]

Universal income would solve may problems (i.e. everyone gets a basic income rich or poor). Gone are the masses of civil servants and bureaucracy used to calculate benefits. No-one falls through the net. No other top-ups are allowed. If you are working, fine the taxation system will resolve the balance. The world is not the same as 30+ years ago, there are no jobs for life, the benefit system is in a mess. Total reform is needed.

[vetran]

They employed the usual suspects.

I would suggest in this case they ask the bank the DWP paid into to cough up the money because they failed to verify the person.

[Whorty]

WT actually FFFFFF

Given how insane the rest of the UC system is how did that slip through the checks.

There were no checks