Reply to: "this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness”

[BlasterBates]

The original comment was :

"The patriotic song Land of Hope and Glory won't be sung because there is no choir, the conductor Dalia Stasevska is from Finland"

This went through various channels and after the independent investigative journalist Nigel Farage gave the story to the Times it was:

"The conductor Dalia Stasevska has banned the singing of Land of Hope Glory because it's patriotic, she should bog off back to Finland"

[darmstadt]

Worst Opinion of the Week: The '''Woke Left''' Are Banning '''Rule Britannia!'''

[BlasterBates]

Does she? The BBC says she's not commented, but I guess that may have changed. Anyway, I got it from the Times. I didn't say I believed it to be true. Sorry I didn't make that clear. I hope you're not too:

Indeed she has, but you're too triggered to read the links I posted.

Lets face it, it's all about being able to tell a foreigner to go back to "bongo-bongo" land.

[Whorty]

Looks like the story was a complete fabrication by the Murdoch press, probably at the behest of Dominic Cummings for the weekly hate .

Finnish conductor received threats over controversial BBC performance | News Now Finland

The problem is no-one can find anyone who actually contradicts what the BBC said, that they're not singing it because of social distancing.

Ziggy has the truth, apparently ... he got it from Boris I mean, why would Boris lie to his faithful hounds?

[Old Greg]

Does she? The BBC says she's not commented, but I guess that may have changed. Anyway, I got it from the Times. I didn't say I believed it to be true. Sorry I didn't make that clear. I hope you're not too:

Did the Times quote Stasevska, or quote an anonymous BBC source making claims about Stasevska's beliefs?

Sounds like you've fallen for a Eurocrat Jobsworths Cancel Christmas type story. LNOTP kerfuffle seems to land in the news every year.

[NotAllThere]

She denies it, so where do you get that from?

Does she? The BBC says she's not commented, but I guess that may have changed. Anyway, I got it from the Times. I didn't say I believed it to be true. Sorry I didn't make that clear. I hope you're not too:

[Old Greg]

She denies it, so where do you get that from?

Even that filth Littlejohn wrote (my emphasis):

Dalia Stasevska, who has the honour of being this year’s Last Night conductor, is said to be keen to ‘modernise’ the repertoire.

Miss Stasevska, from Finland, is reported to believe that the absence of an audience is the ideal time to drag the Proms screaming and kicking into the Summer of Stupidity


‘Dalia is a big supporter of Black Lives Matter and thinks this is the perfect moment to bring change,’ a BBC source said.

And this is now apparently a fact. Still, she's a perfect enemy: foreign, female, cultural elite.

[BlasterBates]

Yes. Stasevska pushed for it to be removed. A little later The BBC decided not to sing it. But it was reported as though the former was the cause of the latter. And it wasn't.

She denies it, so where do you get that from?

[Old Greg]

Yes. Stasevska pushed for it to be removed. A little later The BBC decided not to sing it. But it was reported as though the former was the cause of the latter. And it wasn't.

Still, it keeps the gammons onside while the Tories screw up the Covid response and head towards a Brexit No Deal cliff edge. It's all part and parcel of the right-wing culture war that brought us blue passport.

[NotAllThere]

Looks like the story was a complete fabrication by the Murdoch press, probably at the behest of Dominic Cummings for the weekly hate .

Yes. Stasevska pushed for it to be removed. A little later The BBC decided not to sing it. But it was reported as though the former was the cause of the latter. And it wasn't.

[BlasterBates]

Looks like the story was a complete fabrication by the Murdoch press, probably at the behest of Dominic Cummings for the weekly hate .

Finnish conductor received threats over controversial BBC performance | News Now Finland

Stasevska says she has played no part in deciding the traditional elements of the programme, and has been “wrongly portrayed as a person who tried to influence political debates – this is not true” she states. She is currently the Principal Guest Conductor of the BBC Symphony Orchestra, and will be the Chief Conductor of the Lahti Symphony Orchestra for the 2021-2022 season.

The problem is no-one can find anyone who actually contradicts what the BBC said, that they're not singing it because of social distancing.

[Zigenare]

Did I lose an argument yesterday? Must have missed that one.

You're the 'target' as you started the thread about the Beeb not including the songs, and linking it somehow to lefty luvvies, although how you made that link I have no idea. Not my fault mate that you fall for the stories spouted by the right wing media

Wrong. I started a thread about the "Labour Luvvies" on this board failing to have a go at Boris Johnson's reaction to the BBC.

You really must learn to read properly, not just the start, the end and then make tulip up in the middle.

[vetran]

The antisemitic elements are - a product of Momentum entryism. Starmer isn't antisemitic.

No but Jezzy and co were.

[Old Greg]

So the Labour party are far left? OK Ill remember that.

The antisemitic elements are - a product of Momentum entryism. Starmer isn't antisemitic.

[vetran]

FTFY

Let's be clear here, Far Left and Far Right are extremist views and not generally the same as those held by moderates. Both extremes are idiots to be called out when they raise their stupid views.

So the Labour party are far left? OK Ill remember that.