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Previously on "Covid-19 gone from New Zealand"

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    How about NZ and Wales?

    NZ population: ~4.9 million
    Wales population: ~3.1 million

    NZ deaths (until 23/3): 18
    Wales deaths (until 25/3): 774

    I suspect the difference is that that New Zealand has the advantage of not having a load of infectious English people living next door to it! Also doesn’t have Boris Johnson as it’s political leader
    It probably has better PPE provisioning than Germany too, eh Wilhelmet?

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  • oracleslave
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    The science is pretty obvious why this really wouldn't help. Those nice scientists explained it in basic terms for people like you, did you need a refresher in easy words?

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    Could you link to an explanation for me please as I genuinely don't understand the explanation as to why this wouldn't have helped if implemented months ago. Did the countries that did lockdown international travel have different scientists or the same ones but just interpreted the results differently?

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Value of life - Wikipedia

    UK is £60K I think, if you die on the NHS frontline...
    NHS death is service benefit is also 2 x pensionable pay (if a pension member).

    However, if healthcare workers die after contracting Covid19 at work (according to balance of probabilities if there is doubt), compensation should be due as per other industrial injuries. One for the lawyers and courts I expect, if the state doesn't increase the amount.

    And give the size of hat bailouts to other areas of the economy, 60k is a small sum.

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  • DimPrawn
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post

    Because not everything is measured in terms of money. What value do you put on a human life?
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    Value of life - Wikipedia

    UK is £60K I think, if you die on the NHS frontline...

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    How exactly did that help all the businesses enduring a far stricter lockdown than the UK?
    It didn't... directly.
    It did... indirectly.


    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    The question was, how is NZ protecting businesses and jobs? The more severe the CV measures, the more expensive they likely are one way or the other.
    Because not everything is measured in terms of money. What value do you put on a human life?
    And the massive benefit of having a healthy population is that they can go back to work.

    The poor financial traders just see a couple of months lost income - it's almost like they had their tables turned over outside the temple. The good samaritans see lives saved.
    Your call, I guess.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    And only now "thinking about maybe" forcing people to be tested and isolated at our airports and ports.
    The science is pretty obvious why this really wouldn't help. Those nice scientists explained it in basic terms for people like you, did you need a refresher in easy words?

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
    I daresay not having a massive horse racing festival and an international football match attended by fans from a country that already had an epidemic might have helped
    How exactly did that help all the businesses enduring a far stricter lockdown than the UK?

    You're conflating two entirely unrelated topics. The question was, how is NZ protecting businesses and jobs? The more severe the CV measures, the more expensive they likely are one way or the other.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    Devolving leadership? Do you mean giving it to unelected people?

    Or are you saying that it's more like Dom devolved his leadership to someone who really understands - Boris. Who in turn, when things got difficult, hid in a fridge.
    Inspiring stuff indeed.

    3 March (release of coronavirus action plan)
    “I’m shaking hands continuously. I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were actually a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody, you’ll be pleased to know. I continue to shake hands."
    Churches in Ireland had this figured out at the end of February. It wasn't difficult.

    Covid-19: Dublin churches following advice on handshaking and Communion
    Last edited by Old Greg; 27 April 2020, 15:14.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    From lightweight to inspriational leader. Both of them. Competence is another issue entirely , and in both cases has been devolved to people who really understand what's going on and how to deal with it. Good leaders do just that, lead. They don't have to do.

    HTH. BIDI.

    Devolving leadership? Do you mean giving it to unelected people?

    Or are you saying that it's more like Dom devolved his leadership to someone who really understands - Boris. Who in turn, when things got difficult, hid in a fridge.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    From lightweight to inspriational leader. Both of them. Competence is another issue entirely , and in both cases has been devolved to people who really understand what's going on and how to deal with it. Good leaders do just that, lead. They don't have to do.

    HTH. BIDI.
    Hmmm.

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  • malvolio
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    From lightweight to inspriational leader. Both of them. Competence is another issue entirely , and in both cases has been devolved to people who really understand what's going on and how to deal with it. Good leaders do just that, lead. They don't have to do.

    HTH. BIDI.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    Yes, of course we are. 4.8 million (half of them in one city) vs 60 million, in a country 10% bigger than the UK.

    BTW friends over there saw their PM in much the same light as most here saw Boris last year. Their opinion has changed drastically since CV appeared.
    She's gone from jovial buffoon to competent leader, or from jovial buffoon to incompetent leader? In your friend's opinion. Or something else?

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Coronavirus: New Zealand claims no community cases as lockdown eases - BBC News



    That's how it's done Boris!

    No new cases and 19 dead in total.

    I'm sure we are comparing like for like
    Yes, of course we are. 4.8 million (half of them in one city) vs 60 million, in a country 10% bigger than the UK.

    BTW friends over there saw their PM in much the same light as most here saw Boris last year. Their opinion has changed drastically since CV appeared.

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  • darmstadt
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    How about NZ and Wales?

    NZ population: ~4.9 million
    Wales population: ~3.1 million

    NZ deaths (until 23/3): 18
    Wales deaths (until 25/3): 774

    I suspect the difference is that that New Zealand has the advantage of not having a load of infectious English people living next door to it! Also doesn’t have Boris Johnson as it’s political leader

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  • mallisarealperson
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    You just compared the UK with NZ.
    Damm it your right.

    Suckered in. I'll be reading the daily mail next like the inlaws

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