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Previously on "How forthcoming are you required to be to the police?"

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  • TheCyclingProgrammer
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    Evidently you don't have the right to remain silent (unless you don't want a fine):

    York woman fined for breaching coronavirus rules - BBC News

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    To be fair to the dimwitted bobbies it isn't always simple. As I said earlier, may be safer to drive a few miles to a rural area with few people than go to a more crowded park near town. However, is it a good idea for those from towns with high infection rates to drive to more rural areas with low rates?

    Don't have to be an expert statistician to know that risk of catching it
    = (chance of being within infective distance of someone) x (chance of that someone being infected)
    Oh, they have a terrible job. But I would suggest better to target sites where they see people gathering than to preemptively shut places down or harass people.

    It's stop & search all over again - now they can stop anyone they don't like the look of. "Can you tell me what essential travel you're on... by the way what's that I can smell?"

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  • xoggoth
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    To be fair to the dimwitted bobbies it isn't always simple. As I said earlier, may be safer to drive a few miles to a rural area with few people than go to a more crowded park near town. However, is it a good idea for those from towns with high infection rates to drive to more rural areas with low rates?

    Don't have to be an expert statistician to know that risk of catching it
    = (chance of being within infective distance of someone) x (chance of that someone being infected)

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Having argued with several police officers(and received many plaudits too I might add), you can know your rights and enforce them. It will make no difference to the outcome but take longer. PNC check is typical - which always makes me laugh.

    I am not fan of the police force, though I am hugely supportive of individual officers. At the moment, the force is doing a great job. IMO.
    They're not a "Force" anymore, they're a "Service" and that transition was where it went woefully wrong!

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by GJABS View Post
    FYI You are legally required to identify yourself to police if you are driving a vehicle - you don't have a right of silence to stay anonymous.
    Sounds correct. I've no problem doing that. They can write me a letter

    It's top story on BBC now: Coronavirus: Police told to be 'consistent' with lockdown approach - BBC News

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  • ladymuck
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    Originally posted by GJABS View Post
    FYI You are legally required to identify yourself to police if you are driving a vehicle - you don't have a right of silence to stay anonymous.
    Can you hand over your 'papers' in silence?

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  • GJABS
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    FYI You are legally required to identify yourself to police if you are driving a vehicle - you don't have a right of silence to stay anonymous.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Dredge the phrase 'lefty bleeding heart hand wringing 'ooman rights do-gooders' from your gammon cortex and it may start the make sense to you.
    Nah, those lot love the idea of every action being legislated.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    UK police guidelines to clarify lockdown powers following criticism | UK news | The Guardian

    I didn't expect the Guardian to be standing up for our personal liberties!

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    Dredge the phrase 'lefty bleeding heart hand wringing 'ooman rights do-gooders' from your gammon cortex and it may start the make sense to you.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    They’re damned if they do damned if they dont
    Enough about CUK mods. What about the polis?

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  • BrilloPad
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    Having argued with several police officers(and received many plaudits too I might add), you can know your rights and enforce them. It will make no difference to the outcome but take longer. PNC check is typical - which always makes me laugh.

    I am not fan of the police force, though I am hugely supportive of individual officers. At the moment, the force is doing a great job. IMO.

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  • MarillionFan
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    They’re damned if they do damned if they dont
    if someone you know / love dies of Covid 19 and it gets worse you’ll be begging for the police and army to make people stay at home. So basically stay at ******* home

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  • d000hg
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    UK police guidelines to clarify lockdown powers following criticism | UK news | The Guardian

    I didn't expect the Guardian to be standing up for our personal liberties!

    Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk

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  • xoggoth
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    THis is basically what I was thinking. Round here they've found the time to drive out to tiny 2-car car-parks people in the village drive to to walk their dogs on woodland paths, and put up posters that look like they were done on a home-printer.

    This was actually raised by at least 2 reporters on today's CV briefing, the topic of police being over-zealous in their interpretation. Last thing you want is a policeman being given power to decide the rules.
    Quite. There is actually nothing in the law that defines what local means or that bans driving:

    ‘Stay local’ during the pandemic message strengthened

    It really makes no sense to stop people driving a couple of miles to walk in a little used area instead of walking through a built up area to exercise in a crowded park.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by BR14 View Post
    you really are a little snowflake in't ye?
    A snowflake would be sitting at home refusing to go outside in case it inconvenienced a key worker, you plum.

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