Reply to: Draconian measures

[SueEllen]

Oh yeah, let's all bow to the superior knowledge of the forum's Chief Medical Adviser.

You really are letting that First Aider certificate inflate your tiny mind way beyond capability.

It is a suggested way of moving forward to sensibly manage an escalation. Nobody sensible (clearly that excludes both you and the peabrain WTFH) ever claimed it was a silver bullet.

You really are dumb.

My point is groups A, B and C aren't separate distinct groups.

There are loads of people who intersect the groups e.g. have a medical condition and are an essential worker, are carers but are over 70.

As well as that loads of people live in households with others who are in the other groups. For example healthy school-aged children live with a parent who is an essential worker but has a medical condition making them vulnerable.

[Lost It]

The plan is to segregate all vulnerable people (older, ill, disabled and at risk) let

Yes I get it. The Group A people are the ones who cost the government and us tax payers in sick pay and medication and care.

So if we let most of them die the country won't have to pay them a pension. Or sick pay. Or pay for carers, or give them benefits.

Win win all the way.

Me? Cynical?

[OwlHoot]

Yeah! What Billy No Mates says, shut the pubs and clubs down, he doesn't go him anyway, so isolation at home with squirrels is perfectly normal.

Squirrels can catch corona virus too you know!

2020-01-31 Coronavirus: Why are we catching more diseases from animals?

[shaunbhoy]

Polite to call it guff.

Oh yeah, let's all bow to the superior knowledge of the forum's Chief Medical Adviser.

You really are letting that First Aider certificate inflate your tiny mind way beyond capability.

It is a suggested way of moving forward to sensibly manage an escalation. Nobody sensible (clearly that excludes both you and the peabrain WTFH) ever claimed it was a silver bullet.

[shaunbhoy]

Give up, I'm not related to you.

Clearly. You have way too many fingers for starters, even leaving aside the fact that they are webbed.

[xoggoth]

There are differing opinions, even from the experts, but it is hardly in doubt that the government has much expert advice. Don't know why some people, whose only "expertise" comes from what they have read in the news, think they know better.

[xoggoth]

Not sure about a very draconian shut down, there could be huge consequences of that too. What will be the mental health effects, probably some driven to suicide, of people losing their jobs and businesses or being stuck in isolation for weeks or months?

[SueEllen]

Not sure where you copied that guff from, is it you or the source that don't know the difference between it's and its?

Just because you imagine you are in group A doesn't excuse your attitude.

Polite to call it guff.

Groups A, B and C have intersects and are not distinct groups.

[WTFH]

They'll carve that on your gravestone. Your world is just one endless vortex of flustered triggered bewilderment.

You truly are the dimwit's dimwit.

Give up, I'm not related to you.

[shaunbhoy]

Not sure

They'll carve that on your gravestone. Your world is just one endless vortex of flustered triggered bewilderment.

You truly are the dimwit's dimwit.

[WTFH]

Group C needs to go about it’s business keeping the country moving, kids at school, us at work

HTH BIDI

Not sure where you copied that guff from, is it you or the source that don't know the difference between it's and its?

Just because you imagine you are in group A doesn't excuse your attitude.

[shaunbhoy]

Govt won’t have solid plan, they rarely do and never in emergency like this covering whole world

"Many of you would have seen the recent press conference regarding the Coronavirus given by the Prime Minister along with the Government's Chief Medical and Science Officers earlier on this evening. They gave the Government assessment on as to where this country is in relation to the spread of this disease at this moment in time and they gave recommendations on what is going to happen next with regards to what the people of this country are to to do going forward.

If any are in doubt as to the Government Policy and as to why they are doing things the way their doing things then this might explain in simple terms what the Government policy means. I hope you find it of some use.

The plan is to segregate all vulnerable people (older, ill, disabled and at risk) let’s call this group A

Anyone looking after the older, ill and at risk can be group B

The general population / generally healthy can be group C

Group C needs to go about it’s business keeping the country moving, kids at school, us at work

Group B looks after group A and avoids contact with C

Group C is allowed to contract the virus and because it’s generally healthy it can cope with it better than group A

Group A and B are almost self isolating without the virus to avoid putting strain on the NHS and reducing the risk of getting the virus and then needing the NHS

Group C (the generally healthy) go through the cycle of contracting the virus self isolating and being looked after by healthy family members, friends and the local community

Anyone who has complications gets looked after by the NHS while groups A and B are kept away The NHS are not strained by A and B while its looking after complicated cases in C

As group C comes full circle and recovers it divides in to groups that take group B’s position looking after group A allowing group B to go though the cycle

With B and C though the cycle, A is free to have NHS to itself because B and C are now clear from illness and infection and hopefully have a degree of immunity from getting it again this season.

Hope this helps those that are worried or not sure of the plan

Everyone has a job to do for the above to work and we must all be resolute and understanding if we, as a Nation are to get through this."

HTH BIDI

[AtW]

Govt won’t have solid plan, they rarely do and never in emergency like this covering whole world

[dsc]

I'm all for closing everything down to limit the spread, but then also read this:

How will I be reimbursed if I have been laid off?

Which makes sense as small / medium business can't simply carry on paying people without any money coming in. Government needs to step in and have a solid plan in place, otherwise everything just goes to tulip very quickly.

[NotAllThere]

You seem to be saying no one cares for an individuals life, but you expect that individual to care about others little lives. I think there's a flaw in your logic there.

Nope. But don't worry about it.