Reply to: I don't believe it! Unpaid Assignment

[DoctorStrangelove]

PS That's an idea. The next time you program something, hide some code in it that screws it all up a few years later. Then you'll probably get a new contract to fix it.

Didn't the last chap who tried that end up sharing a cell with Bubba?

[scooterscot]

Brexit land is looking lovely indeed.

[xoggoth]

I've done freebies now and again. Helps maintain relationships

Can be handy to have a bit of connection with long ago colleagues. The highest rate contract I ever had was when I was contacted by a company I'd worked at many years before on a military simulator. Somehow a chunk of it got lost and there was no backup.

PS That's an idea. The next time you program something, hide some code in it that screws it all up a few years later. Then you'll probably get a new contract to fix it.

[vwdan]

I don't see the problem at all. I wouldn't mind a go at that - get some new experience, learn some new skills.

I mean, I presume they understand my performance, interest and dedication to the role is directly related to my pay. Ive always wanted to test a few things in production!

[ladymuck]

I've done freebies now and again. Helps maintain relationships.

I wouldn't do 40 hours a week for free though. I think unpaid internships should be banned as they are inherently exploitative.

#feenotfree

[Mordac]

Not sure what any of last few posts has to do with thread. Back to unpaid assignments, a couple of months ago, I got contacted by someone I used to work with back in 2003 re a problem with a satellite imagery thing. Must of took me a whole 5 hours but didn't get paid.

Happens to me occasionally, but we call it 'doing a mate a favour'. Sometimes I get paid in liquid form, which is perfectly acceptable, and sometimes I just have to accept I'm owed a favour in return.
That's all a million miles from full-time internships though.

[PlanB]

The problem with that, as with so many socialist ideas that sound good in principle, is that it would destroy incentive. We put ourselves, our families, friends, relatives and those like us first, it's human nature. If people know the wealth they work for is just going to be shared out among compete strangers and they have no input in deciding who deserves it, they are going to stop bothering.

Exactly this, the incentive to work hard and provide a better life for your children is pretty close to a primal need. If it were taken away by government I'd take the coke, hookers and dignitas retirement plan, I'd be damned if I hand over my hard earned to those who have done nothing to deserve it.

[KinooOrKinog]

Not sure what any of last few posts has to do with thread. Back to unpaid assignments, a couple of months ago, I got contacted by someone I used to work with back in 2003 re a problem with a satellite imagery thing. Must of took me a whole 5 hours but didn't get paid.

Did you know you weren't going to be paid? I would say five hours unpaid is a favour. A full time job unpaid is a bit different.
Btw, it's must HAVE.

[xoggoth]

Not sure what any of last few posts has to do with thread. Back to unpaid assignments, a couple of months ago, I got contacted by someone I used to work with back in 2003 re a problem with a satellite imagery thing. Must of took me a whole 5 hours but didn't get paid.

[xoggoth]

That is now gone and all we have left in the future is an exploding population...

Killing off the over 70s won't solve anything

Quite. The large number of older people today was due to a big increase in population after WW2. We are tackling that with a big increase in population.

Slight flaw there somewhere.

[xoggoth]

I still think 100% death duties would be a good idea

The problem with that, as with so many socialist ideas that sound good in principle, is that it would destroy incentive. We put ourselves, our families, friends, relatives and those like us first, it's human nature. If people know the wealth they work for is just going to be shared out among compete strangers and they have no input in deciding who deserves it, they are going to stop bothering.

[BrilloPad]

Killing off the over 70s won't solve anything, the money will just be recycled into the system and spunked away by kids and grandkids. Until we fix out of control population growth or find another planet the future is set to ever increasing crapiness until we reach a crunch point.

That is where we disagree. Enforced sale of loads of houses would give younger people a chance to pick up property at a not-too-inflated-price. The inherited money would therefore reduce.

I still think 100% death duties would be a good idea.

[PlanB]

To get anywhere these days you need wealthy parents. Social mobility is almost dead.

Hopefully soon we will get COVID-70. It will kill all those aged 70+ and restore some balance to the UK.

Education, work opportunities and affordable housing were the main drivers of social mobility from the 40s to 80s. That is now gone and all we have left in the future is an exploding population, with ensuing inflation of finite resources and automation requiring fewer humans to do anything.

Killing off the over 70s won't solve anything, the money will just be recycled into the system and spunked away by kids and grandkids. Until we fix out of control population growth or find another planet the future is set to ever increasing crapiness until we reach a crunch point.

[BrilloPad]

It's quite common apparently. They would be funded by their wealthy parents, who treat it as extended work experience, and usually leads to a job which they might struggle to get via the usual route.

To get anywhere these days you need wealthy parents. Social mobility is almost dead.

Hopefully soon we will get COVID-70. It will kill all those aged 70+ and restore some balance to the UK.

[GJABS]

I'm raging at the concept. And I'm a capitalist!

It's supply vs demand. Price is something that results when both are equal.
I feel your pain though.