Reply to: Property firm rolls out veggie-only expense policy

[LondonManc]

Amazing that such an "enlightened" country regards all meat the same.

[original PM]

You know how digital adverts work right?

Yup!

Not looked at McDonald's or any fast food restaurant online for ages though but...

[Manic]

The funniest thing about this is that when I click the link the side banner advert is for Maccy D's.

You know how digital adverts work right?

[vwdan]

Indeed - like htf do you milk an almond?

Ask your missus

[original PM]

And some veggie substitutes such as almond milk are also absolutely awful for the environment. I guess that's somewhat inconvenient, though.

Indeed - like htf do you milk an almond?

[vwdan]

That's not what they're doing though. They're saying if you eat something they don't want you to eat, you will be penalised. It's not really about the environment because how do they know that their employees aren't doing everything else possible to improve the environment, but just choose to eat meat?

And some veggie substitutes such as almond milk are also absolutely awful for the environment. I guess that's somewhat inconvenient, though.

[vwdan]

Same general principle: if you do your bit to improve the status of the environment, we will reward you.
Or is it more convenient for you to consider the 2 cases differently?

If, as you say, judges would have a more sensible approach, the 2 examples should be treated equally. Thankfully the law is in the hands of smarter people than you, though.

But the two examples are NOT equal and would be judged nothing alike whatsoever. A company doesn't have to provide anything whatsoever on a day to day basis - the cafe is a nice little perk and you get what you get. So long as they meet their legal obligations and provide hot water and such, too.

But there is a duty of care and further obligations to employees on business trips. Let's turn it around, because it's absolutely identical legally, would you support a ban on veggie dishes? Would you support a policy that says you can only claim back Big Macs from McDonalds?

You're letting your silliness cloud your judgement, because you so want to be pure.

[KinooOrKinog]

Same general principle: if you do your bit to improve the status of the environment, we will reward you.
Or is it more convenient for you to consider the 2 cases differently?

That's not what they're doing though. They're saying if you eat something they don't want you to eat, you will be penalised. It's not really about the environment because how do they know that their employees aren't doing everything else possible to improve the environment, but just choose to eat meat?

[PCTNN]

You're now confusing a business decision with how you handle employees. Quite why, I'm not sure - did it sound clever in your head?

Euston Station charges me 20p to use the loos, too - but an employer can't charge their staff.

Same general principle: if you do your bit to improve the status of the environment, we will reward you.
Or is it more convenient for you to consider the 2 cases differently?

If, as you say, judges would have a more sensible approach, the 2 examples should be treated equally. Thankfully the law is in the hands of smarter people than you, though.

[Mordac]

wait, did the company say employees cannot eat meat?

No, they said employees can't claim expenses for meals which contain meat.

[vwdan]

Erm, they've stopped charging at least a year ago.

Ah that's good to hear - I must've missed that update in my Railway Bogs magazine.

[AtW]

Euston Station charges me 20p to use the loos, too

Erm, they've stopped charging at least a year ago.

[vwdan]

If that's the case, I should have sued my ex client co, whose cafe would charge me 20p less for a coffee if I brought my own reusable cup. Who are these assholes that want to save the world? Why can we not be free to pollute and destroy it?

You're now confusing a business decision with how you handle employees H&S. Quite why, I'm not sure - did it sound clever in your head? I presume the client met their requirements under Health & Safety, e.g. providing free hot water, a place to heat food etc.

Euston Station charges me 20p to use the loos, too - but an employer can't charge their staff.

[BR14]

Yes

oh, in that case.

SOD OFF, officer dibble

[original PM]

Do they not need to reimburse meals by law if travelling on business, or is it only hotels. Not sure.
What if the receipt doesn't specify what was in the food? Or what if you go to a buffet restaurant? Do you have to prove you only ate the salad? Is it only meat products not allowed? What about fish? What about dairy? So many variables and a lot of admin and faff for their accounts department.

It is a very difficult rule to apply as you state but then this sentence containing peer feedback pretty much sums it up

"However, WeWork’s veggie position attracted some dissenters in the AccountingWEB community. Ian McTernan criticised the policy as “stupid virtue signalling”, while AccountingWEB member crebourret said, “I bet they reimburse mileage done in SUVs and other powerful engines”."