Reply to: Websites like Upwork for freelance in the tech industry

[BR14]

Cumulonimbus a bit too much to manage?

is that not still illegal??

[BritishLad88]

aside from Fiverr, Freelancer, UpWork, PeoplePerHour already mentioned.

There's quite a load others i found....

Hubstaff, Workhoppers, TopTal, Freesy, JoinToHire, FreeEUp, Fivesquid, FreelancerMap
.. some of these might be quite tailored towards particular industry mind you.

[GJABS]

Are these other websites better than Upwork in your opinion?

Well there IS another site ending with ..work that pays very good rates to adults. I better not name it, as it's NSFW

[Sean Peterson]

Keep hustling bro!! Upwork is pretty amazing but I would suggest you to keep exploring and looking for opportunities on other similar websites as well.

[ladymuck]

I got the impression Hire Freelancers & Find Freelance Jobs Online | Freelancer is now the biggest site.

I looked at this a few years ago. That's where my name Cirrus came from - sourcing projects in the cloud. In the end I did other things. It is a bit like the wild west with lots of people screwing each other but some people do seem to make a lot of money.

Cumulonimbus a bit too much to manage?

[Cirrus]

I got the impression Hire Freelancers & Find Freelance Jobs Online | Freelancer is now the biggest site.

I looked at this a few years ago. That's where my name Cirrus came from - sourcing projects in the cloud. In the end I did other things. It is a bit like the wild west with lots of people screwing each other but some people do seem to make a lot of money.

[techperson]

People per hour, Fiverr, Upwork, etc all seem to be a race to the bottom with someone always willing to do something cheaper.

Talmix often has better paying gigs posted on it. I've been on their mailing list for ages but never applied for anything there as the timing hasn't been right.

Yeah, I tried a couple of people on Fivver recently and I was not happy even though it was far from the cheapest. It was web development so in the end I got a recommendation from a friend about a chap in Scotland and we have been doing work since then flawlessly. Indeed networking is your best friend here to find work and to find people to do that work.

I checked Talmix, not really sure about their search mechanism though

[ladymuck]

People per hour, Fiverr, Upwork, etc all seem to be a race to the bottom with someone always willing to do something cheaper.

Talmix often has better paying gigs posted on it. I've been on their mailing list for ages but never applied for anything there as the timing hasn't been right.

[techperson]

Spend that off time networking and finding more customers.

Ask your existing customers to refer you and try to work out what a referral bonus looks like.

There are a lot better ways to spend you time than chasing low paid bits of work especially as on the skill based site you will need to work for a while to get references before you can charge more..

Yeah, I'm doing that alreayd, I just thought an extra channel would be worth but like you guys said, it is more a race to the bottom and I want to steer clear from that. I can get much better stuff by meeting face to face with people

Thanks guys!

[eek]

i'll research a bit more indeed, apologies.

My idea was to go after people that are more concerned with the quality of work delivered than costs. I'm starting to put more customers on board of my MSP which is slowly working out, so the idea was to try to fill some gaps in between with some other work.

Thanks for the advice

Spend that off time networking and finding more customers.

Ask your existing customers to refer you and try to work out what a referral bonus looks like.

There are a lot better ways to spend you time than chasing low paid bits of work especially as on the skill based site you will need to work for a while to get references before you can charge more..

[techperson]

i'll research a bit more indeed, apologies.

My idea was to go after people that are more concerned with the quality of work delivered than costs. I'm starting to put more customers on board of my MSP which is slowly working out, so the idea was to try to fill some gaps in between with some other work.

Thanks for the advice

[vwdan]

Online work is offsite work which means you are competing against Indians doing it as a sideline.

Good luck getting a living out of it.

Yes, but some are better than others. Upwork in particular seems less race to the bottom and there are customers like me who filter on UK only.

I agree they aren't really competing with decent contract roles

[BritishLad88]

...have been discussed before many times.

there's plenty of them out there. But you won't earn much if any at all on them. Like people have said before these are race to bottom rates.
Would you do a 30+ hours gig on Upwork for only $10 USD / hour = equates to 300$ for roughly 3.5 working days in a week.

Don't know USD/GBP exchange rate off top my head (and too lazy to google right now) but about 0.75 rate meaning £230 for just under a week!
I'm sure most people here earn around £500 or above daily working on a contract. Even inside IR35 rates are probably worth more than those on UpWork.
EDIT: You can off course take on multiple gigs at once but do you really have time to do the actual work?

I explored them too but then soon decided it's not worth it.

Freelance sites like those I concluded are good for people who have extra time on their hands & want to earn extra cash + also for people from India and i gather money value in India is much less than here (couple years ago my ex- indian colleague once told me that the value of £60K over there is like billionaire material or something like that...)

[northernladuk]

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[eek]

Office 365, focusing more and more on Teams, Sharepoint and training people how to use the tools properly to collaborate.

Any other places for advertising this kind of work in your opinion?

Online work is offsite work which means you are competing against Indians doing it as a sideline.

Good luck getting a living out of it.