Reply to: Ethical veganism is a belief protected by law, tribunal rules

[meridian]

According to sommat I heard on the Beeb yesterday, the chap won't travel by bus in case said bus injures an insect.

Sounds like a Jain.

Somebody should tell him how many insects are killed during the harvesting of wheats and grains.

[DoctorStrangelove]

According to sommat I heard on the Beeb yesterday, the chap won't travel by bus in case said bus injures an insect.

Sounds like a Jain.

[NotAllThere]

Thought I summarised it quite well to be fair:

He disclosed private company information but has been let off because he eats plants. Wow.

Read carefully. He has not been let off. That is part 2 of the tribunal.

Which part of this are you having difficulty with? There's been no ruling yet about whether he has been unfairly dismissed or not.

[LondonManc]

Nope, he hasn't been let off because he eats plants.

The first case was "is ethical veganisim a philosophical belief"
Which he won.

The next case is "was he fired for his belief or for disclosing private company information"?
That case hasn't come to court yet, so he most certainly has NOT been "let off because he eats plants"

My foresight will bear fruit. Vegan-friendly fruit.

[WTFH]

Thought I summarised it quite well to be fair:

Nope, he hasn't been let off because he eats plants.

The first case was "is ethical veganisim a philosophical belief"
Which he won.

The next case is "was he fired for his belief or for disclosing private company information"?
That case hasn't come to court yet, so he most certainly has NOT been "let off because he eats plants"

[LondonManc]

Are you the only one on this thread who actually read the article? Everyone else seems to be arguing about what they guess the article must have said.

Thought I summarised it quite well to be fair:

He disclosed private company information but has been let off because he eats plants. Wow.

[NotAllThere]

Are you the only one on this thread who actually read the article? Everyone else seems to be arguing about what they guess the article must have said.

I'm sure many read it. Understanding it however.

I still think it's a bad decision

[hairymouse]

No he hasn't. Part one is whether his defence is tenable. If ethical veganism was found to not be a protected belief, then he would have lost there and then. Now that it has been so found, the the tribunal moves to part 2 - whether he was sacked for his beliefs or not.

Are you the only one on this thread who actually read the article? Everyone else seems to be arguing about what they guess the article must have said.

[WTFH]

Cue long-winded and boring rant about how the EU removed lead from petrol, thus eliminating classic cars from the roads. Followed by an even more boring rant about how much classic car owners add to the economy.

It keeps him occupied, more than his job does, and more than the salary he pays his wife. HMRC will have a field day when they catch up with him

[meridian]

Bring back smog and lead in petrol I say!

Cue long-winded and boring rant about how the EU removed lead from petrol, thus eliminating classic cars from the roads. Followed by an even more boring rant about how much classic car owners add to the economy.

[Eirikur]

so???

So bulltulip just like any eeligion

[WTFH]

Everyone needs to do their bit. I was talking to a colleague from India and cutting down on breeding got mentioned over there. Those of the religion of peace were dead set against it because it was their God-given right to breed and have a big family. No helping some people - we definitely need a Thanos moment or some chlorine in the gene pool.

How many couples in the UK or US have more than 1 child? Those from the religion of child abuse and no contraception tend to have big families too, don't they?

[WTFH]

Sounds like a recipe for fun, simply refuse to come to work because your coworkers are wearing leather shoes and coats, and you refuse to be part of a company that profits from such things.

Boom, can't fire me for my ethical beliefs.

I mean is there much difference in putting animal fat in your machine lubricants vs putting animal fat in your workers? The company could choose to use machines and people that do not consume animal products.

The whole thing sounds like one giant animal product of the male bovine variety to me.

Or not. But slippery slopes are great things.

Did you read what the story was actually about?

The guy's problem is that an organisation that's supposed to be about animal welfare was actually investing in companies that did animal testing.

He will probably (hopefully) still end up sacked for leaking company information, but if it is found that he made the company aware and they chose to do nothing, then the result could be different.

As for your slippery slope, if someone chooses to take a job in an organisation that they detest, that's their problem.
If they choose to break the rules and get sacked for it, it's nothing to do with belief.

Do you spot the difference between that and your slippery spin?

[LondonManc]

It does get mentioned, but the normal response is that people in poorer countries must be stopped from breeding and there's nothing that can or should be done in wealthier countries.

Everyone needs to do their bit. I was talking to a colleague from India and cutting down on breeding got mentioned over there. Those of the religion of peace were dead set against it because it was their God-given right to breed and have a big family. No helping some people - we definitely need a Thanos moment or some chlorine in the gene pool.

[FIERCE TANK BATTLE]

Sounds like a recipe for fun, simply refuse to come to work because your coworkers are wearing leather shoes and coats, and you refuse to be part of a company that profits from such things.

Boom, can't fire me for my ethical beliefs.

I mean is there much difference in putting animal fat in your machine lubricants vs putting animal fat in your workers? The company could choose to use machines and people that do not consume animal products.

The whole thing sounds like one giant animal product of the male bovine variety to me.