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Previously on "Not the will of the people"

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post
    Go to Egypt and look around, 99.9999% desert.
    Anywhere in the UK, highly populated and agricultural
    Well done for clearly not reading either Scooty's post or mine. The gas is offshore, for starters, and what does Egypt being largely desert have to do with the economic argument for producing, rather than importing energy?

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  • Paddy
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    It may be cheaper on paper, but is it not economically more sensible to produce energy rather than import it? The jobs boost to local economies alone would be far more beneficial. Then there's all that lovely tax. I'm willing to bet the Treasury can't wait for fracking to start in earnest...
    Go to Egypt and look around, 99.9999% desert.
    Anywhere in the UK, highly populated and agricultural

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    The Zohr gas field discovered in the last couple of years off Egypt's coast is amongst the largest ever recorded. Exported gas will be plenty cheap and easy since it's only a matter of sailing out of the med and round the corner. It'll be far cheaper than can be achieved with the fracking process. Why or why is the government not negotiating for plenty cheap energy supply from Egypt instead of tearing up the countryside? When you don't have an engineer or scientist in the government there'll never be any educated decisions made.
    It may be cheaper on paper, but is it not economically more sensible to produce energy rather than import it? The jobs boost to local economies alone would be far more beneficial. Then there's all that lovely tax. I'm willing to bet the Treasury can't wait for fracking to start in earnest...

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  • scooterscot
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    The Zohr gas field discovered in the last couple of years off Egypt's coast is amongst the largest ever recorded. Exported gas will be plenty cheap and easy since it's only a matter of sailing out of the med and round the corner. It'll be far cheaper than can be achieved with the fracking process. Why or why is the government not negotiating for plenty cheap energy supply from Egypt instead of tearing up the countryside? When you don't have an engineer or scientist in the government there'll never be any educated decisions made.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    Once they've done with Lancash1te, any chance they move on to Yorksh1te. Hopefully we can get rid of the North in the next few years at this rate.
    Maybe if we frack in a straight line across the region the top half will shear off and we solve the west Lothian question?

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  • fatJock
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post
    Coal and gas supplies are finite, the UK should go nuclear.
    Building a new reactor at Hinkley Point and another one potentially in the mix at Sizewell. I’m working for a firm on the supply chain perimeter of Hinkley Point C.

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  • tazdevil
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post
    Coal and gas supplies are finite, the UK should go nuclear.
    Agreed and we should have put a nuclear engine in the new aircraft carriers for 20+ years sailing without refuelling

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  • Paddy
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    Originally posted by tazdevil View Post
    Nor me

    I remember people getting in a tiz when we closed in the pits in the 80's and they created big holes at much shallower depths than fracking which simply extracts the contents of sludgy shale and replaces it with sludgy mud at a mile down, way below water tables and so forth. The simple fact is that this country isn't rich or secure enough to depend on imported energy
    Coal and gas supplies are finite, the UK should go nuclear.

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  • tazdevil
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Cheap energy for generations? I'm not seeing a downside here...
    Nor me

    I remember people getting in a tiz when we closed in the pits in the 80's and they created big holes at much shallower depths than fracking which simply extracts the contents of sludgy shale and replaces it with sludgy mud at a mile down, way below water tables and so forth. The simple fact is that this country isn't rich or secure enough to depend on imported energy

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    Once they've done with Lancash1te, any chance they move on to Yorksh1te. Hopefully we can get rid of the North in the next few years at this rate.
    Harsh. We should frack the Scots for 40 years, and then offer them a new vote on independence. If they vote "No" a second time, we'll know they're either still terrified of Sturgeon, or they'll believe absolutely anything we say. If they vote "Yes" we'll still have 40 years of oil revenues.
    I'm still not seeing a downside...

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  • MarillionFan
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    Once they've done with Lancash1te, any chance they move on to Yorksh1te. Hopefully we can get rid of the North in the next few years at this rate.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post
    Fracking to start in Lancashire as legal challenge fails - BBC News

    Fracking to start in Lancashire as legal challenge fails
    Cheap energy for generations? I'm not seeing a downside here...

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  • NigelJK
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    So not as advertised, just a regurgitation of the protesters ungrounded, unproven irrational fears?

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  • Paddy
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    Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
    Not the will of a few mindless, criminal protesters Shirley?
    I believe it's more important to preserve the quality of water rather than short term energy supplies.

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  • NigelJK
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    Not the will of a few mindless, criminal protesters Shirley?

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