Reply to: Bad news for contractors

[northernladuk]

If (when) it comes in, it's going to cause havoc. Unless my contract is deemed outside IR35 I'll be off. There's going to be one hell of a contractor merry go round when this hits the fan. So when this clueless kn0b jockey screws it up he'll be safe in the knowledge that he's cost the Tories tens of thousands of votes. And this from the guy who was criticising brown when IR35 was brought in because of it's effects on the smallest businesses in the UK.

Looking at the crap HMRC have landed themselves in in the last few weeks/months I wouldn't be overly worried at the moment.

[BoredBloke]

I could possibly lose my ‘job’ if this happens.

I commute via plane every week and stay in hotels for 2 or 3 nights - plus costs of food and hire car. So approx £250 a week in expenses.

Been forced into PAYE will mean the client has the upper hand I know that I would be lucky to get £45k but I cant imagine that they will want the liability of paying for them expenses themselves. They would set my employee contract to been based in the office and so any expenses incurred in getting there would be my own. I cant imagine them setting my contract up as WFH so I can claim the expenses.

Sure that there will be many more affected by this

If (when) it comes in, it's going to cause havoc. Unless my contract is deemed outside IR35 I'll be off. There's going to be one hell of a contractor merry go round when this hits the fan. So when this clueless kn0b jockey screws it up he'll be safe in the knowledge that he's cost the Tories tens of thousands of votes. And this from the guy who was criticising brown when IR35 was brought in because of it's effects on the smallest businesses in the UK.

[WTFH]

Bean shooting anything lately?

No, not much.

[greenlake]

Time to stock up on baked beans & shotgun shells.

Make sure you get those dual purpose beans....

[Tomo1971]

I could possibly lose my ‘job’ if this happens.

I commute via plane every week and stay in hotels for 2 or 3 nights - plus costs of food and hire car. So approx £250 a week in expenses.

Been forced into PAYE will mean the client has the upper hand I know that I would be lucky to get £45k but I cant imagine that they will want the liability of paying for them expenses themselves. They would set my employee contract to been based in the office and so any expenses incurred in getting there would be my own. I cant imagine them setting my contract up as WFH so I can claim the expenses.

Sure that there will be many more affected by this

[DoctorStrangelove]

With or without Brexit, there are dark days ahead.

Aye.

Time to stock up on baked beans & shotgun shells.

[LondonManc]

I cringe when I read posts like this.

The current Labour policies are borrowed from the Scandinavian countries. They work well there, generally.

The only reason you've even imagined the V-word is because you've read it in a newspaper somewhere.

Engage your brain and do your own analysis, because embarrassing posts like this really shouldn't be happening from otherwise educated individuals.

The Tories are usually seen as right wing. If I go spouting "they're basically US republicans!" it's obviously claptrap. There are newspapers that regularly make this comparison, it it's a nonsense.

Corbyn's Venezuela ideals have been raised many times, but he's not the problem, it's John McDonnell. He's prepared to watch the country burn to get in power:
John McDonnell's new plan is certainly radical – to smash up the country as badly as possible | The Independent

I'm not a fan of the current Tory government either, so don't see me as some Conservative nay-sayer. I'm very much disillusioned with politics, having seen us turn into America, with slur vs slur rather than offering v offering being the way that election campaigns are run nowadays. One thing that I have seen locally is a rise in what was, in the 80s, known as militant with Derek Hatton in Liverpool. It's concerning that party politics are forcing out the moderate Labour MPs who have generally been doing a reasonable job. With or without Brexit, there are dark days ahead.

[contractorinatractor]

So are attempts at outright socialism, like Venezuela, who, by the way, Komrade Korbyn sees as a model economy. If T-May trips UK up with Brexit, Korbyn will be there to drop a paving slab on its head, not help it up.

I cringe when I read posts like this.

The current Labour policies are borrowed from the Scandinavian countries. They work well there, generally.

The only reason you've even imagined the V-word is because you've read it in a newspaper somewhere.

Engage your brain and do your own analysis, because embarrassing posts like this really shouldn't be happening from otherwise educated individuals.

The Tories are usually seen as right wing. If I go spouting "they're basically US republicans!" it's obviously claptrap. There are newspapers that regularly make this comparison, it it's a nonsense.

[BR14]

nah time for locking up feckwits, you should be afraid!

nah, - he's in Belgium, land of the feckwits.

[vetran]

Quite. Time for some Nationalsozialismus.

nah time for locking up feckwits, you should be afraid!

[sasguru]

I hate both the Tories and Labour. Two cheeks of the same arse and the Lib Dems are the hole in the middle.

Quite. Time for some Nationalsozialismus.

[Lockhouse]

So are attempts at outright socialism, like Venezuela, who, by the way, Komrade Korbyn sees as a model economy. If T-May trips UK up with Brexit, Korbyn will be there to drop a paving slab on its head, not help it up.

I hate both the Tories and Labour. Two cheeks of the same arse and the Lib Dems are the hole in the middle.

[cosmic]

So are attempts at outright socialism, like Venezuela, who, by the way, Komrade Korbyn sees as a model economy. If T-May trips UK up with Brexit, Korbyn will be there to drop a paving slab on its head, not help it up.

Lol just stop with the b.s.! We have had a bad gov for the past 8 years who have only proved to be anti business. It's about time we need change! We haven't had Corbyn in power only b.s. from claiming he is a communist but he hasn't been in power to make that claim. Well what we do know is this current gov is bleeding us dry exactly like communists.

[LondonManc]

I don't get it either to be honest. The current system is irretrievably broken.

So are attempts at outright socialism, like Venezuela, who, by the way, Komrade Korbyn sees as a model economy. If T-May trips UK up with Brexit, Korbyn will be there to drop a paving slab on its head, not help it up.

[BR14]

How?