Reply to: Alfie Evans....

[northernladuk]

Im not reading all the way from the start of this thread... roughly at what point did it go so wildly off topic? Any chance we could get it back on track?
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Here
https://forums.contractoruk.com/gene...ml#post2548954

[Snarf]

"good care" is pot luck in the NHS, and the chances are not that high

That has not been my experience, I have lived all over the country and have a disabled child* so I'd think that I have more exposure to the NHS than most and I have never once had any issue with services.

Waiting times can sometimes be longer than I'd like but anything requiring urgent care has always been handled very professionally and in a timley manner.


Im not reading all the way from the start of this thread... roughly at what point did it go so wildly off topic? Any chance we could get it back on track?


* By extension we are also friends with a significant number of parents and carers with disabled children/young adults and I believe from previous discussion that they have the same opinions on the level of service as I do.

[northernladuk]

"good care" is pot luck in the NHS, and the chances are not that high

Keep pumping your agenda. Forget the thread topic along the way...

[NotAllThere]

"good care" is pot luck in the NHS, and the chances are not that high

Do you have any reliable statistics to support your opinion? Please do give them, otherwise we might begin think you're just trolling.

[CoolCat]

Nope it seems to be the people who have had good care from those specialisms who sing it's praises. Those who have had incompetent GPs, midwives, etc or work for the service don't.

"good care" is pot luck in the NHS, and the chances are not that high

[SueEllen]

Dont think thats true, most people are biased by the never ending pro NHS propaganda we are fed in this country. If you go sit in some NHS waiting rooms and listen to peoples true feelings about the crap care they get, or listen to anyone who has had care abroad recently and is able to compare and contrast to NHS equivalents... you will get a different story.

Nope it seems to be the people who have had good care from those specialisms who sing it's praises. Those who have had incompetent GPs, midwives, etc or work for the service don't.

[CoolCat]

See, it's funny. All this effort and you could have found a single quote, a single shred of evidence to back up your claims. But nope. Telling.

yawn

[vwdan]

I think I give up on you. You will still be praising the NHS as they push you into a corridor to die when you are suffering from something that would be routinely treated in the rest of the developed world.

See, it's funny. All this effort and you could have found a single quote, a single shred of evidence to back up your claims. But nope. Telling.

[CoolCat]

I've read the entire case judgement - I saw nothing about any treatment. But you're still harping on about something that doesn't exist.

I think I give up on you. You will still be praising the NHS as they push you into a corridor to die when you are suffering from something that would be routinely treated in the rest of the developed world.

[vwdan]

Apart from the nonsense insults, there have been multiple experts, including the German professor of medicine who presented evidence in the court case, who have been in the media. You wanted expert views related to the case I pointed you at them.

I know for a fact most international medical opinion is on the side of that German professor of medicine and most definitely not the NHS.

If you dont want to listen to a professor of medicine who has examined the boy and explained how his case would be treated in any other developed country... then you are truly blinded by illogical attachment to the NHS.

I've read the entire case judgement - I saw nothing about any treatment. But you're still harping on about something that doesn't exist.

[CoolCat]

No you didn't, you've offered to waste my time to go and listen to something that almost certainly doesn't reflect your world view. This isn't "If you don't believe the Earth is round, go and read a science book", you're making a claim that is no way represented in ANY court document or by ANY expert related to the case. As such, it's on you to provide some context and some proof. But, of course, you have none because you're a subpar IQ

Apart from the nonsense insults, there have been multiple experts, including the German professor of medicine who presented evidence in the court case, who have been in the media. You wanted expert views related to the case I pointed you at them.

I know for a fact most international medical opinion is on the side of that German professor of medicine and most definitely not the NHS.

If you dont want to listen to a professor of medicine who has examined the boy and explained how his case would be treated in any other developed country... then you are truly blinded by illogical attachment to the NHS.

[vwdan]

On the contrary I pointed you at the exact evidence. I just declined to be the one who transcribed it for you.

No you didn't, you've offered to waste my time to go and listen to something that almost certainly doesn't reflect your world view. This isn't "If you don't believe the Earth is round, go and read a science book", you're making a claim that is no way represented in ANY court document or by ANY expert related to the case. As such, it's on you to provide some context and some proof. But, of course, you have none because you're a subpar IQ

[CoolCat]

You provided NO evidence, just wild and ridiculous claims that aren't rooted in reality. You're a fool, but I'm glad you've at least been forced to admit it.

On the contrary I pointed you at the exact evidence. I just declined to be the one who transcribed it for you.

[vwdan]

aw poor didums, somebody not falling for your typical leftist style of non debate

You provided NO evidence, just wild and ridiculous claims that aren't rooted in reality. You're a fool, but I'm glad you've at least been forced to admit it.

[CoolCat]

So, you're just full of crap with an agenda. I'm shocked.

aw poor didums, somebody not falling for your typical leftist style of non debate