Reply to: May Has Really Screwed Up...

[radish2008]

Do you think that when Labour were in government and the UKBF made the decision, it was with the intention of deporting people? I suspect not. Was it a major issue that should have been considered at the time? Probably not.
When the decision was made to deport, was the question asked about the people whose landing cards had been destroyed? I suspect not. Should that have been a major issue at the time? Yes.
Who made the decision to deport? That's the question that should be asked, rather than the usual twisting/deflecting of arguments that happens here a lot.

I totally agree. My point was about the cynical way May tried to deflect whilst she was channelling Thatcher in PMQs.

[WTFH]

Ok let me spell it out for you.

1. 2009 the border force takes a decision to destroy the landing card. Import bit here is Labour is in power.
2. 2010/2011/whenever the landing cards are destroyed.

TM was very careful to say UNDER a Labour government, specifically not BY a Labour government.
She knew exactly what had happened and wanted to get it into the public domain that Labour was at fault here, not her or the Tories.

Do you think that when the landing cards were destroyed nobody at all said 'do we still want to do this ?'

Do you think that when Labour were in government and the UKBF made the decision, it was with the intention of deporting people? I suspect not. Was it a major issue that should have been considered at the time? Probably not.
When the decision was made to deport, was the question asked about the people whose landing cards had been destroyed? I suspect not. Should that have been a major issue at the time? Yes.
Who made the decision to deport? That's the question that should be asked, rather than the usual twisting/deflecting of arguments that happens here a lot.

[radish2008]

No, you don't get it.

If it was under a Lab government, then they could/should have known - they just didn't bother to fact-check before trying to use it as a political football.

Ok let me spell it out for you.

1. 2009 the border force takes a decision to destroy the landing card. Import bit here is Labour is in power.
2. 2010/2011/whenever the landing cards are destroyed.

TM was very careful to say UNDER a Labour government, specifically not BY a Labour government.
She knew exactly what had happened and wanted to get it into the public domain that Labour was at fault here, not her or the Tories.

Do you think that when the landing cards were destroyed nobody at all said 'do we still want to do this ?'

[Bean]

You don't get it do you. May knew the night before exactly what had happened. She then made the statement, knowing it would be reported, and then retracted it 30 minutes later. All of this whilst crying crocodile tears that she was sorry.

Theresa May in action

No, you don't get it.

If it was under a Lab government, then they could/should have known - they just didn't bother to fact-check before trying to use it as a political football.

[darmstadt]

You are a bloody racist preventing nurses coming over here to keep wages down and deprive LEDC's of talent rather than us hiring locally. Jeez I have been banging on about this for years!

And there was I thinking it was the 52%

[vetran]

You couldn't make it up, mind you, they'll be sent back after 3 years, possibly:

https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/wo...024177.article

Jamaica keeps losing its best nurses to the UK | The Voice Online

You are a bloody racist preventing nurses coming over here to keep wages down and deprive LEDC's of talent rather than us hiring locally. Jeez I have been banging on about this for years!

[darmstadt]

You couldn't make it up, mind you, they'll be sent back after 3 years, possibly:

https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/wo...024177.article

Jamaica keeps losing its best nurses to the UK | The Voice Online

[radish2008]

ftfy

You don't get it do you. May knew the night before exactly what had happened. She then made the statement, knowing it would be reported, and then retracted it 30 minutes later. All of this whilst crying crocodile tears that she was sorry.

Theresa May in action

[Bean]

Yes. A very careful use of the word under.

The fact is it was ACTIONED under a Tory Gov, BY the Home Office and it is totally ******* lame for this tulip government to constantly blame Labour for it's own mistakes, of which there are many and vice-versa.

ftfy

[radish2008]

Just to add, the exact wording is important, as it changes the meaning of the accusation made by TM:

"No, the decision to destroy the landing cards was taken in 2009 under a Labour Government."
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Common...ersToQuestions

Yes. A very careful use of the word under.

The fact is it was ACTIONED under a Tory Gov and it is totally ******* lame for this tulip government to constantly blame Labour for it's own mistakes.

[Bean]

I guess we know now the reason he didn't know was because it wasn't true.

Home Office Tues, 5pm: Decision to dispose of Windrush 'registration slips' was taken by UK Border Agency in 2010.
PM tells MPs, Weds 1210pm: Decision was taken by Labour in 2009.
PM's spokesperson, Weds, 1240pm: "Operational decision was by UKBA"ie not by Lab ministers.

Just to add, the exact wording is important, as it changes the meaning of the accusation made by TM:

"No, the decision to destroy the landing cards was taken in 2009 under a Labour Government."
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Common...ersToQuestions

[vetran]

Not a fan of her politics but I bet Dianne Abbot has a much nicer (ie bigger) bum.

PS Sexist remark. I do so wholly regret etc etc.

yes but its attached to Diane Abbott!

Have some standards lust after Kim Kardashian instead.

[BR14]

Not a fan of her politics but I bet Dianne Abbot has a much nicer (ie bigger) bum.

PS Sexist remark. I do so wholly regret etc etc.

there you go

[xoggoth]

The thought of Theresa May topless is enough to kill without any polonium

Not a fan of her politics but I bet Dianne Abbot has a much nicer (ie bigger) bum.

PS Sexist remark. I do so wholly regret etc etc.

[Jog On]

You see? One look at Vlad and you've forgotten all about Theresa!

If only I could forget about Theresa...