Reply to: Positive news on immigration

[WTFH]

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also you could curb immigration in half just by banning people from outside of europe. Just like that, without upsetting 27 neighbours

But to do that would require the government to do something, when it's a lot easier just to blame others.

[diseasex]

I've always wondered why the UK never implemented European Directive 2004/38 which basically states that since 2004, it has allowed governments to control movements of EU citizens as follows: allow EU citizens to freely circulate only for three months and then require them (should they want to stay longer) to show they are working (employed or self-employed), a registered student or have sufficient resources to support them self and comprehensive sickness insurance.

+1
also you could curb immigration in half just by banning people from outside of europe. Just like that, without upsetting 27 neighbours

[darmstadt]

I've always wondered why the UK never implemented European Directive 2004/38 which basically states that since 2004, it has allowed governments to control movements of EU citizens as follows: allow EU citizens to freely circulate only for three months and then require them (should they want to stay longer) to show they are working (employed or self-employed), a registered student or have sufficient resources to support them self and comprehensive sickness insurance.

Article 7

Right of residence for more than three months. All Union citizens shall have the right of residence on the territory of another Member State fora period of longer than three months if they:
(a) are workers or self-employed persons in the host Member State; or
(b) have sufficient resources for themselves and their family members not to become a burden onthe social assistance system of the host Member State during their period of residence and have comprehensive sickness insurance cover in the host Member State; or
(c) – are enrolled at a private or public establishment, accredited or financed by the host Member State on the basis of its legislation or administrative practice, for the principal purpose of following a course of study, including vocational training; and– have comprehensive sickness insurance cover in the host Member State and assure the relevant national authority, by means of a declaration or by such equivalent means as they may choose, that they have sufficient resources for themselves and their family members not to become a burden on the social assistance system of the host Member State during their period of residence.

[d000hg]

Using the Trump playbook... make the nation such an undesirable, unfriendly place for foreigners they don't want to come here. (This genuinely happened with Mexican immigration)

[AtW]

I very much suspect they'll compensate by recruiting nurses from Asian and Middle Eastern countries and provide accommodation for them and their families.

Yes, but they won't be called immigrants in stats - just nurses.

[AtW]

Yes because importing nurses from countries with a greater need than us is of course perfectly acceptable. Hmm its been a sticking plaster for dreadful government policy.

It is totally acceptable since those countries don't offer their own nurses good enough conditions to stay - won't take long until UK nurses start leaving soon

[northernladyuk]

Yeah I know what you're saying my Dad's side of the family are Filippino and they're all over the world.

Filippino nurses tend to be highly regarded in the NHS for their work ethic.

[The Spartan]

It's something of an economic and social model. The Philippines train and export nurses who send back remittances. The kids stay with the grandparents. It's quite sad, really, but there you go.

Yeah I know what you're saying my Dad's side of the family are Filippino and they're all over the world.

[northernladyuk]

That's because it's very difficult for Filippinos to get in the UK as it is.

It's something of an economic and social model. The Philippines train and export nurses who send back remittances. The kids stay with the grandparents. It's quite sad, really, but there you go.

[The Spartan]

Philippines is a major exporter of nurses. The families tend to stay at home.

That's because it's very difficult for Filippinos to get in the UK as it is.

[northernladyuk]

I very much suspect they'll compensate by recruiting nurses from Asian and Middle Eastern countries and provide accommodation for them and their families.

Philippines is a major exporter of nurses. The families tend to stay at home.

[BlasterBates]

I very much suspect they'll compensate by recruiting nurses from Asian and Middle Eastern countries and provide accommodation for them and their families.

[darmstadt]

Unless you're in IT and then the figures are non-EU which makes a mockery of Leavers: Record number of non-EU techies coming to Blighty • The Register

[vetran]

She added: ‘Clearly action is needed to offset any further loss of EU nursing staff in the near future. But the overall shortage of 30,000 nurses is not a shortage caused by the Brexit vote.

'The chronic shortage of nurses is the result of years of short-term planning and cuts to training places. A sustainable, long-term approach to workforce planning is desperately needed.'

Yes because importing nurses from countries with a greater need than us is of course perfectly acceptable.

Hmm its been a sticking plaster for dreadful government policy.

[northernladyuk]

Immigration falling

Well, we soon saw them off, didn't we sir? Miserable slant-eye, sausage eating swine.