Reply to: Enough is Enough

[original PM]

Indeed it is

some facts

Female genital mutilation (FGM) frequently asked questions | UNFPA - United Nations Population Fund

[WTFH]

Looks like we are in agreement then, and you weren't trying to trivialise my comment by comparing FGM with ear-piercing after all...

Yes, totally in agreement. FGM should not be trivialised. It is a horrific form of branding/maiming.

[grabri]

The practice of mutilating a child - no matter how, whether outwardly visible or not - should be stopped. It doesn't matter whether it is for "religious" grounds or not.
If a mother thinks it's a good idea to get (or let) a 5 year old have a tattoo that says "I love my dad", in my opinion that is not a good idea.
If a father wants their child to have their ears pierced at 2 years old, it's not because the child has asked for it, but because the parent has forced/projected their desires onto the child.

So, my comment was that it should not be allowed until a time when a child is considered old enough to make sensible decisions on their own. I suggested the voting age.

Looks like we are in agreement then, and you weren't trying to trivialise my comment by comparing FGM with ear-piercing after all...

[WTFH]

There is the original quote - your comparison is still ridiculous, and loses the religious context to boot, although that isn't relevant.

The practice of mutilating a child - no matter how, whether outwardly visible or not - should be stopped. It doesn't matter whether it is for "religious" grounds or not.
If a mother thinks it's a good idea to get (or let) a 5 year old have a tattoo that says "I love my dad", in my opinion that is not a good idea.
If a father wants their child to have their ears pierced at 2 years old, it's not because the child has asked for it, but because the parent has forced/projected their desires onto the child.

So, my comment was that it should not be allowed until a time when a child is considered old enough to make sensible decisions on their own. I suggested the voting age.

[grabri]

In all of this we should not lose sight of the fact that FGM has much more of an impact on young girls. The practice of mutilation of children by any religion should be banned in any decent society.

It's only ridiculous when someone deliberately takes it out of context, i.e. Removes the second half of the original quote.
If you'd like to look at the original quote in full and then look at the reply, you'll see there's nothing ridiculous in it at all.

There is the original quote - your comparison is still ridiculous, and loses the religious context to boot, although that isn't relevant.

[WTFH]

What a ridiculous comparison.

It's only ridiculous when someone deliberately takes it out of context, i.e. Removes the second half of the original quote.
If you'd like to look at the original quote in full and then look at the reply, you'll see there's nothing ridiculous in it at all.

[NotAllThere]

..., but I'd have expected better, especially from a moderator.

Not been here long then, have you.

[shaunbhoy]

we may not agree on certain things, but I'd have expected better, especially from a moderator.

You sure you are on the right forum?

The mods on here have the combined IQ of a Weetabix..............you may be setting the bar a bit high!!

[billybiro]

When I see the crap you continually post, I doubt it very much. I put you somewhere between Recruitment Agent and pond slime.

So, having nothing meaningful to contribute to the discussion, you resort to ad hominem attacks. Really, we may not agree on certain things, but I'd have expected better, especially from a moderator.

[xoggoth]

In all of this we should not lose sight of the fact that FGM has much more of an impact on young girls.

So, no piercings, tattoos, etc, until they are old enough to vote?

What a ridiculous comparison.

[darmstadt]

Sorry, you're trying to prove that you're not a far right paranoid by linking to breitbart?

Seems to be only Breitbart reporting it as well. Now would this be the school:

Studio school is failing its pupils says Ofsted | Nottingham Post

And this the pupil question:

Latest News | Vision Studio School, Mansfield

Actually it was reported before, by another 15 year old kipper:

OUTRAGE as student referred to anti-terror police for UKIP leaflets in his school bag | Kipper Central

And other right wing websites including, where I suspect the OP spotted it:

The 'Political Correctness Gone Mad' Thread - Page 344 - Wrestling Forum : WWE, TNA, Indy Wrestling, Lucha Underground, Women of Wrestling Forums

[NotAllThere]

Yes, I did. I think the term used should be Islamist Extremists.

But I think the rest of what you said is delusional - reflective of far-right paranoia.

Like this for example:

2017-06-06 EXCLUSIVE: Teachers Report 15-Year-Old Boy To Govt Extremism Watchdog for Jokes about Caitlyn Jenner and Campaigning for UKIP

Sorry, you're trying to prove that you're not a far right paranoid by linking to breitbart?

[OwlHoot]

But I think the rest of what you said is delusional - reflective of far-right paranoia.

Like this for example:

2017-06-06 EXCLUSIVE: Teachers Report 15-Year-Old Boy To Govt Extremism Watchdog for Jokes about Caitlyn Jenner and Campaigning for UKIP

A member of UKIP’s youth wing has been labelled “far right” by his school and reported to the Government’s PREVENT de-radicalisation programme, which is designed to stop “young people from being drawn into terrorism”.

Michael Higginson, a 15-year-old year 10 student at Vision Studio School in Mansfield, also claims teachers openly back the Labour Party and said the website for his local UKIP branch is blocked on the school’s Internet service.

He told Breitbart London the school’s “safeguarding officer” told him he could have committed “a hate crime” and that they “needed to find out if [he was] an extremist” before he was subsequently interviewed by two police officers.

The student (pictured with former UKIP leadership candidate John Rees-Evans) said he is “vocal” in his support for UKIP in citizenship lessons and has tweeted approvingly about right-wing French presidential candidate Marine Le Pen. ...

Don't kid yourself - Extremism is what the Government says it is.

[OwlHoot]

As the Catholic (Universal) church believes & preaches it was founded by Jesus then that is 2000 years ago, the basic form was there.

The Roman name came later but it was the same organisation...

It's stretching a point to try and identify the "Holy Catholic" church with the "Roman Catholic" church.

As you mentioned, the first is a generic expression and unites practically every Christian sect by apostolic succession of their priests and ministers from Christ and the original apostles.

The second is just one, albeit popular and widespread, denomination with the Bishop of Rome at its head.

[NotAllThere]

.. and remember that there is no such thing as a muslim/Christian/jewish/etc.. child. Only the indoctrinated child of muslim/Christian/jewish/etc... parents

I was raised an agnostic. It didn't stick. I had to play outside while all my mates went to Sunday School.