Reply to: Blow to the UK as European Medicines Agency prepares to leave

[darmstadt]

I wish some Brexiters would stop making untrue statements.

Are bears Catholic? Do Popes tulip in the woods?

[shaunbhoy]

I suspect

You "suspect" a whole range of things you are ill-equipped to manage.

Most on here, the Cretinnati aside, "suspect" that you are generally talking out of your rear-end!!

[original PM]

We actually did have a say.

Experts from the UK where on the European Medical Agencies Committees as well as the other EU agencies.

In addition some English and Welsh laws were the foundation for EU directives. In other words we had the laws first but the EU sought to improve them. Then we had to incorporate those improvements back into our laws.

I wish some Brexiters would stop making untrue statements.

BTW when we had non-UKIP MEPs they actually worked with one another to convince MEPs from other countries to support our ideas.

The point i was trying to make was that whether we get a say in the rules or not, to trade we need to abide by those rules anyway so it seems there is little difference.

If the uk comes up with new 'ideas' about anything and they are good ideas they will be adopted anyway and not just by the EU if they are tulip then they will not be.

We all abide by laws we had no say in on a daily basis.

[SueEllen]

There is nothing to stop the uk following the eu legislations for this sort of thing.

And why would we not?

Yes we get no say in these rules but then one of the reasons we left is because we did not get a say anyway.

We trade with many other countries and have no say in their rules so.....

We actually did have a say.

Experts from the UK where on the European Medical Agencies Committees as well as the other EU agencies.

In addition some English and Welsh laws were the foundation for EU directives. In other words we had the laws first but the EU sought to improve them. Then we had to incorporate those improvements back into our laws.

I wish some Brexiters would stop making untrue statements.

BTW when we had non-UKIP MEPs they actually worked with one another to convince MEPs from other countries to support our ideas.

[original PM]

Where does 'fairness' come into this? Why should the EU be 'fair' to us? Brits are so arrogant to think we should get special treatment all the time and that others should pander to us. We're leaving - 27 other countries are not. Our one country is now negotiating and trying to get a good deal from 27 other countries who have their own vested interest. When will the thickos who voted Brexit understand this? Britain isn't the world power it once was (gained via wars and generally not great behavior!) and we have to just suck it up.

Brexiters, you voted out. You won the vote. Well done. Now stop being arrogant and get on with fixing the mess you have put us in. No one is going to hand your victory to you on a plate so stop whining that the EU are not giving you everything you think you deserve.

FFS, and the Brexiters call us who voted remain as whingers!

There is nothing to stop the uk following the eu legislations for this sort of thing.

And why would we not?

Yes we get no say in these rules but then one of the reasons we left is because we did not get a say anyway.

We trade with many other countries and have no say in their rules so.....

[Whorty]

True, there is no logic or fairness to the EUs approach to Brexit beyond 'stuff the Brits!'

Where does 'fairness' come into this? Why should the EU be 'fair' to us? Brits are so arrogant to think we should get special treatment all the time and that others should pander to us. We're leaving - 27 other countries are not. Our one country is now negotiating and trying to get a good deal from 27 other countries who have their own vested interest. When will the thickos who voted Brexit understand this? Britain isn't the world power it once was (gained via wars and generally not great behavior!) and we have to just suck it up.

Brexiters, you voted out. You won the vote. Well done. Now stop being arrogant and get on with fixing the mess you have put us in. No one is going to hand your victory to you on a plate so stop whining that the EU are not giving you everything you think you deserve.

FFS, and the Brexiters call us who voted remain as whingers!

[SueEllen]

Yes looks like Swissmedic is the Swiss equivalent of MHRA. Both too small to handle full drug regulatory affairs.
Switzerland has a large pharma industry that like the UK one exports in large volume into Europe.
Would be crazy to have 2 regulatory bodies and 2 sets of hoops to jump through.

The UK medical agency would just rubber stamp the licences from the EU one.

[sasguru]

Swissmedic works with the EMA. European Medicines Agency - Regulators outside the EU - Switzerland

Yes looks like Swissmedic is the Swiss equivalent of MHRA. Both too small to handle full drug regulatory affairs.
Switzerland has a large pharma industry that like the UK one exports in large volume into Europe.
Would be crazy to have 2 regulatory bodies and 2 sets of hoops to jump through.

[NotAllThere]

So what do Switzerland do?

Swissmedic works with the EMA. European Medicines Agency - Regulators outside the EU - Switzerland

[sasguru]

To be fair, though, the collapse of manufacturing post Brexit was clearly seen by some Brexiters.
No doubt some Brexiters voted for Brexit because they saw manufacturing as outdated and unneccesary:

MPs react after Vote Leave economist admits Brexit would 'mostly eliminate manufacturing' - Chronicle Live

"Over time, if we left the EU, it seems likely that we would mostly eliminate manufacturing, leaving mainly industries such as design, marketing and hi-tech. But this shouldn’t scare us."

[PurpleGorilla]

its a divorce you leave the crazy ex but you get to still pay for the house yet they don't let you live there.

#EUtheCrazyEX

Give me the car

- yes, but the car is in my name

My god you are so unreasonable

- ok here are the keys

What you won't pay for it now?

- well um, I don't own it any more

You are so bloody unreasonable!

[sasguru]

Well the aerospace industry could also suffer:

https://www.ft.com/content/dff73c1c-...5-9e5580d6e5fb

[PurpleGorilla]

What you doubt has no bearing on the matter ...

True, there is no logic or fairness to the EUs approach to Brexit beyond 'stuff the Brits!'

[vetran]

So we pay our obligations but have to stop participation to exiting contracts?

I doubt that...

its a divorce you leave the crazy ex but you get to still pay for the house yet they don't let you live there.

#EUtheCrazyEX

[sasguru]

So we pay our obligations but have to stop participation to exiting contracts?

I doubt that...

What you doubt has no bearing on the matter ...