Reply to: Tools to make Windows 10 a proper OS again?

[vetran]

Let's Make Windows Great Again. #MWGA

(I was going to call it "Let's Give... Windows A New Kernel, but I couldn't come up with a hashtag for it.)

took me a little while to get to the hashtag!

[xoggoth]

Start10 gives you a normal Win 7 type start menu, though had to fiddle around a bit to get working how I wanted.

Basically anything you want to run on start up should be in local user folder:

C:\Users\<whatever>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Start Menu\Startup

Other stuff you want to appear in start menu as normal should be in all users:

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

[WTFH]

Let's Make Windows Great Again. #MWGA

(I was going to call it "Let's Give... Windows A New Kernel, but I couldn't come up with a hashtag for it.)

[woohoo]

I'm persevering with Windows 10 as my main home VM (I use the Long Term Servicing Branch to avoid all the guff) but it just doesn't feel like an OS, it feels like a launcher on a tablet (yes it's not in tablet mode). So any info on stuff I could do with to make it feel like an OS again?

- Everything is so 'big' - I'm running Full HD but it feels like 800x600; fonts are 100% but there's so much wasted real estate everywhere.
- Start Scree;, I hate it, finding application is a chore and even creating shortcuts. I've got Classic Shell ready in the toolkit.
- Got the Sysinternals suite
- Need a decent File Manager (Multi-Commander? XYPlorer?)
- Any "One stop shop" to access most settings, like Control Panel used to be but now it's horribly split between this and the awful "Settings" app.
- ??

Any pointers appreciated, Note this is all hosted on a Windows 2012 R2 Server but I'm keeping that as vanilla as I can so only the VMs get cluttered.

Do you have a screen shot, I installed the long term serv branch in a vm and was ok. I tend to use search to find apps, so win and s works for me, though I pin apps to task bar.

[NotAllThere]

We're amazing because we know how to use google. Many people don't.

[administrator]

There is me thinking it is standard practice to look things up in Google as most linux folks will happily tell someone how they did stuff because they know they will forget themselves so need to Google it.

You know that and I know that but "normal" people think we are amazing due to the fact that we can fix computery things

[SueEllen]

Ssshh! Don't tell people that the only thing most sysadmins do is look up stuff in Google. My cover will be blown And yes, Ubuntu is great.

There is me thinking it is standard practice to look things up in Google as most linux folks will happily tell someone how they did stuff because they know they will forget themselves so need to Google it.

[administrator]

It's called Google.

Other than that for normal everyday use it is the like older versions of Windows and similar to Mac but without that stupid command key.

Oh and I use Ubuntu. I have used other flavours but this is the easiest to use as the LTS updates don't break everything.

Ssshh! Don't tell people that the only thing most sysadmins do is look up stuff in Google. My cover will be blown And yes, Ubuntu is great.

[SueEllen]

@Owlhoot

I know I'd love Linux; because I like stuff to have that fine grain of control but I've not currently got the amount of time it'd take to get proficient at it.. I do like the idea that you can write a command line with pipes and regex that would pretty much do anything.

It's called Google.

Other than that for normal everyday use it is the like older versions of Windows and similar to Mac but without that stupid command key.

Oh and I use Ubuntu. I have used other flavours but this is the easiest to use as the LTS updates don't break everything.

[greenlake]

Tools to make Windows 10 a proper OS again?

A sledgehammer....?

[darmstadt]

I'm fond of Cygwin ... a full Unix-like shell with all the commands running natively in Windows - Like Command Prompt but 1000 more powerful and flexible.

Why don't you just: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/about

[vetran]

@Owlhoot

I know I'd love Linux; because I like stuff to have that fine grain of control but I've not currently got the amount of time it'd take to get proficient at it.. I do like the idea that you can write a command line with pipes and regex that would pretty much do anything.

Anecdote: Years ago I worked at a place where I had to use Red Hat Linux, my display went blank for some reason. I approached the in-house guru who turned to his workstation, typed a few commands in (something along the lines of x650 or x(something)), span back round again, said "OK this should fix it", then as we both looked as my blank screen he pressed Enter and voila! My display was up again. Thought that was pretty cool.

If I were to dabble in Linux on a VM, what 'distro' (is it still called that?) should I go for, I'd want it to hold my hand but have to have the potential to be quite powerful.

@diseasex - Can't see the pic it's just a small black X, must be Corp firewall.

Restarting the X Windows server is worrying if you don't know why it broke.

Unfortunately finding the in house guru is the difficult thing. You know you can since Powershell do pretty much the same thing with Windows but only a few people know how. (You could do it before but it was messy.)

Other problem with Linux is it needs an intelligent user and they are in short supply.


https://www.sapien.com/blog/2015/07/...re-do-i-start/

[Platypus]

I'm fond of Cygwin ... a full Unix-like shell with all the commands running natively in Windows - Like Command Prompt but 1000 more powerful and flexible.

[northernladyuk]

If you liked Windows 7:

Classic Shell - Start menu and other Windows enhancements

Gives you Hibernate as well as Sleep on the Shut Down menu.


Edit: whoops, re-read and can see you have classic shell.

[rl4engc]

@Owlhoot

I know I'd love Linux; because I like stuff to have that fine grain of control but I've not currently got the amount of time it'd take to get proficient at it.. I do like the idea that you can write a command line with pipes and regex that would pretty much do anything.

Anecdote: Years ago I worked at a place where I had to use Red Hat Linux, my display went blank for some reason. I approached the in-house guru who turned to his workstation, typed a few commands in (something along the lines of x650 or x(something)), span back round again, said "OK this should fix it", then as we both looked as my blank screen he pressed Enter and voila! My display was up again. Thought that was pretty cool.

If I were to dabble in Linux on a VM, what 'distro' (is it still called that?) should I go for, I'd want it to hold my hand but have to have the potential to be quite powerful.

@diseasex - Can't see the pic it's just a small black X, must be Corp firewall.