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Previously on "Martin McGuinness"
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Oh Dear, has Minestrone been drinking again? His missus really should offer him help, being a GP.
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B'liar just took the credit
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostMo Mowlam and John Hume deserve more credit for it than they ever received. Bill Clinton also deserves a mention, not because he was heavily involved, but he was able to charm both sides into action.
Herne, Hulme , Trimble & Paisley it was sort of in their interests.
and Mandleslime got caught with Jim the plumber & some dodgy passports so had to say his excuses & leave.
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Originally posted by vetran View PostDon't forget Major managed the first cease fire. & Mo Mowlam did most of the work for the second cease fire.
Don't forget George Mitchell as negotiator
And the other leaders that didn't have blood on their hands.
B'liar just took the credit.
Irish Peace Process — Important People
Mo Mowlam and John Hume deserve more credit for it than they ever received. Bill Clinton also deserves a mention, not because he was heavily involved, but he was able to charm both sides into action.
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Don't forget Major managed the first cease fire. & Mo Mowlam did most of the work for the second cease fire.
Don't forget George Mitchell as negotiator
And the other leaders that didn't have blood on their hands.
B'liar just took the credit.
Irish Peace Process — Important People
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Originally posted by xoggoth View PostThe only people who can end any major conflict are the major players in it, they are the only ones with the influence to do so. Whatever they did, McGuiness and Adams deserve credit for bringing an ending to the troubles.
PS And the PM at the time, Blair, although I won't go as far as praising him.
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The only people who can end any major conflict are the major players in it, they are the only ones with the influence to do so. Whatever they did, McGuiness and Adams deserve credit for bringing an ending to the troubles.
PS And the PM at the time, Blair, although I won't go as far as praising him.
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostIf you carry that line of reasoning on there will never be peace. You have to draw a line.
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostIf you carry that line of reasoning on there will never be peace. You have to draw a line.
Imagine if we hadn't promoted all those terrorists come dictators in Africa & the middle east?
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostKilling fewer people is a good thing. Not being Tony Blair is a good thing.
Lauding someone as a saint for killing fewer people is wrong.
Believing that a terrorist leader is solely responsible for the peace process in Ireland is also wrong.
It is the ones who were not practicing violence or advocating it, those are the people who should be praised for showing forgiveness and bringing the terrorists (from both sides) to the table so that a peace deal could be brokered.
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostMcGuinness's actions later in life prevented further bloodshed. That's without a doubt. But any accolade for that must be tempered by the fact that his actions earlier in life caused considerable bloodshed. At best, it goes part way to paying his debt to society.
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Originally posted by northernladyuk View PostThat's a good thing, isn't it? An anti-Blair.
Lauding someone as a saint for killing fewer people is wrong.
Believing that a terrorist leader is solely responsible for the peace process in Ireland is also wrong.
It is the ones who were not practicing violence or advocating it, those are the people who should be praised for showing forgiveness and bringing the terrorists (from both sides) to the table so that a peace deal could be brokered.
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostYes, he authorised the murder of fewer civilians when he was in office than before he went into office.
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Originally posted by milanbenes View Postshe looks like she could do with more sleep
Milan.
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