Reply to: Do you eat ice cream?

[Bee]

The English word is "Medronho".

[NotAllThere]

...I don't know how to say Medronho in English so I inserted the picture here.

The English word is "Medronho".

[d000hg]

QED. You think it out of order (as do I but that's not the point), others don't. It's not offensive, homophobic or anything else, just marginally bad taste. There's a world of difference. Offensive, AFAIC, is anything about gross differences such as impairment. But it still says a lot more about the person making the "joke" than anything else. Ignore the morons - especially those telling us to be offended - and move on.

At surface level it's just bad taste, not intended as an insult to gay people I'm sure.

But all these kind of jokes are predicated on the idea that being gay is in some way 'worse' than not being gay (or a woman, or black, or Irish or fat or ginger). It's not simply an assertion that gay people eat ice-cream. That wouldn't be amusing... it's the implication that if he were gay that would be a bad thing. It's done at a subconscious level but ultimately it's exactly the same as when we were kids and would call each other gay/bum-chums as an insult. We didn't actually think the other kid was gay but on some level we were educated that being gay was 2nd-class.

Bit of a serious reply and actually I think comedy based on stereotypes is not the worst thing. I'm happy to hear jokes about my inability to dance or talk to tradesmen or taxi drivers But you gotta be careful.

[Bee]

My favourite is rum and raisin ice cream, but nowhere in the UK ever seems to sell it.

You should try mango ice cream with medronho's licor, it's a kind of brandy.

I don't know how to say Medronho in English so I inserted the picture here.

[WTFH]

Do you eat ice cream?

I'm starting to wonder about BrilloPad's obsession with extrapolation. A quick bit of statistical analysis reveals that 50% of his posts are about it.


(Based on this thread)

[BrilloPad]

And based on our small sample, there are no gay people who don't eat ice cream.

And on CUK we never extrapolate...

[original PM]

If you are not offended then you are self hating

[OwlHoot]

And based on our small sample, there are no gay people who don't eat ice cream.

which, taking Hammond's point literally, rather proves he's right!

(To my knowledge he never said _only_ gay people ate ice cream.)

[NotAllThere]

The kidz today use the word "gay" to mean simply effete or refined, and no doubt that's what Hammond meant.

Anyway, while we've been arguing, has anyone noticed that the "yes and I'm gay" option has two votes?!

And based on our small sample, there are no gay people who don't eat ice cream.

[OwlHoot]

Hammond should and does know better, so why do you think he made his comments?

The kidz today use the word "gay" to mean simply effete or refined, and no doubt that's what Hammond meant.

Anyway, while we've been arguing, has anyone noticed that the "yes and I'm gay" option has two votes?!

[original PM]

Hammond should and does know better, so why do you think he made his comments?

You are missing the fookin point - it was a non comment.

The only people who are getting upset about it are people who have fook all better to do with their lives.

Is it the fact that you like ice cream and are not gay which is upsetting you?

Is it the fact you are gay and do not like ice cream?

Or is it simply the fact that someone said the word 'gay' in a context which you have been told should be offensive and so now you feel you have been 'offended' and someone should do something to make you feel better?

[SueEllen]

Hammond should and does know better, so why do you think he made his comments?

Because he's an ignorant w***er, and wants to increase publicity for their the show which is already the most pirated Amazon one ever?

[teapot418]

QED. You think it out of order (as do I but that's not the point), others don't. It's not offensive, homophobic or anything else, just marginally bad taste. There's a world of difference. Offensive, AFAIC, is anything about gross differences such as impairment. But it still says a lot more about the person making the "joke" than anything else. Ignore the morons - especially those telling us to be offended - and move on.


Is that the same 52% that don't understand metaphors I wonder...

Hammond should and does know better, so why do you think he made his comments?

[malvolio]

We don't have to be "outraged", but we can wonder why Hammond thinks it's still fine to make "gay" jokes. Some of us have moved on.

QED. You think it out of order (as do I but that's not the point), others don't. It's not offensive, homophobic or anything else, just marginally bad taste. There's a world of difference. Offensive, AFAIC, is anything about gross differences such as impairment. But it still says a lot more about the person making the "joke" than anything else. Ignore the morons - especially those telling us to be offended - and move on.

52% of the population don't have balls.

Is that the same 52% that don't understand metaphors I wonder...

[SueEllen]

My favourite is rum and raisin ice cream, but nowhere in the UK ever seems to sell it.

That's cos proper rum is alcoholic. They use to sell it...