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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostThere's no expectation of a linear relationship between %vote and seats in a FPTP, multi party system. My understanding is that Labour currently have a small advantage based just on number of constituents per seat, and the Boundary Commission are addressing this.
But there are other forms of bias
https://constitution-unit.com/2015/0...conservatives/
There are 2 major factors I see:
Fpp - and more significantly, Fpp on a constituency basis. However, we voted on av in 2011 and the electorate said no
Boundary size - currently being addressed
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There's no expectation of a linear relationship between %vote and seats in a FPTP, multi party system. My understanding is that Labour currently have a small advantage based just on number of constituents per seat, and the Boundary Commission are addressing this.
But there are other forms of bias
https://constitution-unit.com/2015/0...conservatives/
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I posted something from twitter that said that Trump won the popular vote
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Originally posted by vetran View PostScotland?
It was a comparison with the US electoral college. The reworking of the boundaries will resolve this. (And probably cause a different issue).
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostBasically the higher the vote regardless of the party the better they generally do, since Labour won most of the recent elections then you can paint a picture of Labour being favoured.
Now it's the other way round with the Conservatives winning the elections so they're now doing proportionally better.
If your conclusion is that the current system favours Labour, that is incorrect, it simply favours the party with the most votes.
2015 Tory 37.7% 330 seats
2010 Tory 36.0% 306 seats
2005 Labr 35.2% 355 seats
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So you want to avoid the evidence that the electoral boundaries in the UK are skewed in favour of the Labour party
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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostDid you not get the memo? We get our truths from Twitter now. If there was a relationship historically, it broke down in 2015.
But if you want to go get the numbers and post the truth, uncomfortable or otherwise, feel free.
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostAfter all you would not want any uncomfortable truths interrupting your righteous agenda
But if you want to go get the numbers and post the truth, uncomfortable or otherwise, feel free.
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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostIgnoring the most recent one? Thanks, I decline the offer.
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Originally posted by GB9 View PostLook back through recent elections and compare the percentages of Tory votes and seats to Labour votes and seats.
Now it's the other way round with the Conservatives winning the elections so they're now doing proportionally better.
If your conclusion is that the current system favours Labour, that is incorrect, it simply favours the party with the most votes.
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