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    Originally posted by pjclarke View Post
    Ignoring the most recent one? Thanks, I decline the offer.
    So you want to avoid the evidence that the electoral boundaries in the UK are skewed in favour of the Labour party?

    Why an I unsurprised by that?

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      So you want to avoid the evidence that the electoral boundaries in the UK are skewed in favour of the Labour party
      You have not presented any evidence for me to avoid.
      My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.

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        Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
        Basically the higher the vote regardless of the party the better they generally do, since Labour won most of the recent elections then you can paint a picture of Labour being favoured.

        Now it's the other way round with the Conservatives winning the elections so they're now doing proportionally better.

        If your conclusion is that the current system favours Labour, that is incorrect, it simply favours the party with the most votes.
        Ok. Please explain:

        2015 Tory 37.7% 330 seats
        2010 Tory 36.0% 306 seats
        2005 Labr 35.2% 355 seats

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          Originally posted by pjclarke View Post
          You have not presented any evidence for me to avoid.
          Please see evidence above.

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            Originally posted by GB9 View Post
            Ok. Please explain:

            2015 Tory 37.7% 330 seats
            2010 Tory 36.0% 306 seats
            2005 Labr 35.2% 355 seats
            Scotland?
            Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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              Originally posted by vetran View Post
              Scotland?
              Mainly London I think. Smaller Labour voting constituencies. Fewer votes, more seats.

              It was a comparison with the US electoral college. The reworking of the boundaries will resolve this. (And probably cause a different issue).

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                I posted something from twitter that said that Trump won the popular vote
                Why?
                My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.

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                  Originally posted by GB9 View Post
                  Ok. Please explain:

                  2015 Tory 37.7% 330 seats
                  2010 Tory 36.0% 306 seats
                  2005 Labr 35.2% 355 seats
                  Its what the illuminati wanted

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                    There's no expectation of a linear relationship between %vote and seats in a FPTP, multi party system. My understanding is that Labour currently have a small advantage based just on number of constituents per seat, and the Boundary Commission are addressing this.

                    But there are other forms of bias

                    https://constitution-unit.com/2015/0...conservatives/
                    My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.

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                      Originally posted by pjclarke View Post
                      There's no expectation of a linear relationship between %vote and seats in a FPTP, multi party system. My understanding is that Labour currently have a small advantage based just on number of constituents per seat, and the Boundary Commission are addressing this.

                      But there are other forms of bias

                      https://constitution-unit.com/2015/0...conservatives/
                      I don't see anything in their that constitutes actual bias, just changed voting patterns e.g. the point about amassing votes in safe seats has always been the case.

                      There are 2 major factors I see:

                      Fpp - and more significantly, Fpp on a constituency basis. However, we voted on av in 2011 and the electorate said no
                      Boundary size - currently being addressed

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