Reply to: Chop Chop

[d000hg]

It is not the fact they don't want kids it is the fact they are making a song and dance about it.

With you on that.

[shaunbhoy]

Aren't war and genocide quite natural?

Not really. They are aberrations that occur when greed overrides normal inclusive behaviour. Tragically it happens all too often, but nobody said we were perfect.

[shaunbhoy]

Looks like shauny and WTF have finally met their match.

But only one of us needs to abuse mod privileges to try and strengthen their case.

[d000hg]

Well that was interesting.

[vetran]

The number of bees in a hive may be larger than the number of humans in a genocide.
And those engaging in genocide would often use the claim they're NOT the same species as motivation.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if bees/wasps/ants engage in wars between their own kind, though I don't know if this IS the case... anyone?

apparently yes


Bees Wage Surprisingly Violent Wars?And Females Do the Fighting

[d000hg]

The number of bees in a hive may be larger than the number of humans in a genocide.
And those engaging in genocide would often use the claim they're NOT the same species as motivation.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if bees/wasps/ants engage in wars between their own kind, though I don't know if this IS the case... anyone?

[WTFH]

Animals definitely fight, sometimes in packs. Wasps try to take out beehives (or vice versa?) which is basically genocide trying to wipe out an entire colony.

Human genocide is humans (one species) trying to wipe out other members of the same species.

Wasps taking out bees is about attacking a small group of a different species.

[d000hg]

To humans, yes.

Animals definitely fight, sometimes in packs. Wasps try to take out beehives (or vice versa?) which is basically genocide trying to wipe out an entire colony.

[WTFH]

Aren't war and genocide quite natural?

To humans, yes.

[d000hg]

No. it isn't.
It IS, admittedly, a form of population control, but then again so is Genocide.

Aren't war and genocide quite natural?

[Halo Jones]

When, in any context, is being selfish good?

A few possibilities:

When choosing not to have children
When a carer decides to have a weekend off to have some mental down time
Putting in extra hours at work to improve your promotion chances
Setting up a new company
Bargaining for a discount
Buying that new toy

I am not say that a truly selfish ideal is good, far from it, but with everything in life there is a balance, sometimes you need to do something for yourself for pure personal profit, but the unintended consequences of your selfish action can have benefits for others, for example the benefits for the above could be:

There are enough unloved children / population
Looking after yourself lets you help those around you better
Higher productivity at work
Employment of others
If you negotiate a discount it makes it easier for others to do the same
Adding to the economy

[Old Greg]

Looks like shauny and WTF have finally met their match.

[WTFH]

No, you somehow "imagined" I lost your version of the argument. You went off, as you so frequently do, on an irrelevant tangent which I can't be arsed to drag you back from as you would simply repeat the mistake being a tedious little fookwit.

My "irrelevant tangent" was to point out that your idea of "unnatural" was diametrically opposed to scientific reasoning.

One might have concluded that, with all your "experience in the wide world" you would have little need for Google in reaching any finding. Sadly it seems to be your first port of call for anything and everything. Maybe ask a grown-up?

I didn't need Google, but since you won't accept facts when presented clearly, I felt citing some sources might provide further evidence. Unfortunately you've fallen back to your MO of childish name-calling and pathetic trolling.

[shaunbhoy]

I notice you lost the argument on "natural", so you had to change your wording.

No, you somehow "imagined" I lost your version of the argument. You went off, as you so frequently do, on an irrelevant tangent which I can't be arsed to drag you back from as you would simply repeat the mistake being a tedious little fookwit.

So, my stupidity (and experience in the wide world) would suggest that humans aren't top of the food chain.
Let's see if I can find out who or what is...


Let me google that for you

One might have concluded that, with all your "experience in the wide world" you would have little need for Google in reaching any finding. Sadly it seems to be your first port of call for anything and everything. Maybe ask a grown-up?

[original PM]

With you on that, although we are talking about a Daily Fail headline, so major pinch of salt to be taken with it.
Also, aren't swingers parties basically that - let's have sex cause we're not having any more kids? (perhaps some on here will correct me if my concept of swinging isn't the truth)


...although many people in the UK also have house warming parties, which are basically about showing off something materialistic to others and saying "look at us".

Well erm having never been to a swinger party - I could not possible comment but most of the women look like they had had a kid or two......

as for the house warming party I always though the idea was you did it before you redecorated the house etc so you could have a great party without worrying about someone smiling red wine on your new cream rug...