Reply to: Interviewers getting younger

[FatLazyContractor]

Totally agree, TBF to Suity they sound like complete bunch of clueless chunts

Which was exactly why they were looking to hire an expert.... at least until they found Suity.

[LondonManc]

and they think they know everything

Bullet dodged Suity!

Yeah, you can't have both parties like that!

[jmo21]

Totally agree, TBF to Suity they sound like complete bunch of clueless chunts

and they think they know everything

Bullet dodged Suity!

[eek]

some would see that as an opportunity.

It is once you are in the door with feet under a desk. Until you are at that point its a problem...

[vetran]

Totally agree, TBF to Suity they sound like complete bunch of clueless chunts

some would see that as an opportunity.

[MrMarkyMark]

Not quite. A lot on here think he should never be let near a computer keyboard either...

Nick is however correct. Onwards and upwards they clearly aren't very good at interviewing and need to rethink their methods (separating technical and customer facing into 2 clearly separate bits with some different faces would be a good start)..

Totally agree, TBF to Suity they sound like complete bunch of clueless chunts

[eek]

So, they think exactly the same as the majority, on here, food for thought

Not quite. A lot on here think he should never be let near a computer keyboard either...

Nick is however correct. Onwards and upwards they clearly aren't very good at interviewing and need to rethink their methods (separating technical and customer facing into 2 clearly separate bits with some different faces would be a good start)..

[MrMarkyMark]

So the feedback was that my presentation skills were lacking, ie that I'm the classic propeller hat wearing nerd that should never go near the customer.

So, they think exactly the same as the majority, on here, food for thought

[barrydidit]

The feedback was quite woolly really. But then again, I did have sheep tulip on my flies.

FTFY

[NickFitz]

The feedback was quite woolly really. This was a 2 step interview process, and the on site second stage was to be a "working interview". I thought some pairs programming or something.

In fact it was them firing technical questions at me for 1hr, then a test with some post it notes.

Apparently I aced the technical test (as did the previous unlucky candidate), and we both slipped up with the post it note test.

The post it note test involved them putting post it notes on the table in a random fashion, with words written on them like "fruit", "banana", "apple", "knife", "person", "cut".

Then I was told that they wanted to build an app to cut fruit, and I should arrange the post it notes "logically". So I asked if they were referring to an object hierarchy. The said this would do.

So I arranged the post it notes, and was then asked to embellish the object model so they could also juice fruit, as well a cut it. I was also asked to model it in such a way that would cause a "compilation error" if a fruit that was not cuttable, or juicable was passed to the person object for cutting or juicing.

I did this, and shan't bother you with the technicalities, but it involved interfaces.

Then some more questions, and I asked them how they would prefer it to be implemented, either by use of another interface, or by other means, and asked some questions to try and tease this out. At this point the guy puts his hands up in a "stop right there" fashion and says "we're not technical remember, we're the customer". I pointed out that as the customer they had already been discussing compilation errors, interfaces and object models so must be fairly technical as we're already 20 minutes into discussions.

So the feedback was that my presentation skills were lacking, ie that I'm the classic propeller hat wearing nerd that should never go near the customer. Odd that as a consultant I have to deal with customers all day long, but this seems lost on them.

I do feel that unless they give some better feedback, or come up with a less subjective test, they will be looking for Mr/Mrs right for longer than needs be.

Ho hum.

They sounds like a right bunch of *******. Bollocks to 'em

[stek]

My last interview was 40 mins of chit-chat on a conf call, other end asked to go in private mode, 10 mins later - offer. Not one hard question, just waffling over situations...

Start 1st Sept, Copenhagen, can't speak a word of Danish, but I'll be fluent in a few hours after I've downloaded this course....

Min luftpudebåd er fyldt med ål.

Anyone ever tried to buy a bed in Danish from a Swedish company online from the UK?

[shaunbhoy]

Planning to apply? Don't! They won't like you.

They bullying you again? Why not lose a few stone then you might be able to squeeze in behind the tills and show your class? It would keep you away from the bakery section if nothing else although they might have to liberally spread the air fresheners around the Till area to mask your BO.

[blackeye]

The feedback was quite woolly really. This was a 2 step interview process, and the on site second stage was to be a "working interview". I thought some pairs programming or something.

In fact it was them firing technical questions at me for 1hr, then a test with some post it notes.

Apparently I aced the technical test (as did the previous unlucky candidate), and we both slipped up with the post it note test.

The post it note test involved them putting post it notes on the table in a random fashion, with words written on them like "fruit", "banana", "apple", "knife", "person", "cut".

Then I was told that they wanted to build an app to cut fruit, and I should arrange the post it notes "logically". So I asked if they were referring to an object hierarchy. The said this would do.

So I arranged the post it notes, and was then asked to embellish the object model so they could also juice fruit, as well a cut it. I was also asked to model it in such a way that would cause a "compilation error" if a fruit that was not cuttable, or juicable was passed to the person object for cutting or juicing.

I did this, and shan't bother you with the technicalities, but it involved interfaces.

Then some more questions, and I asked them how they would prefer it to be implemented, either by use of another interface, or by other means, and asked some questions to try and tease this out. At this point the guy puts his hands up in a "stop right there" fashion and says "we're not technical remember, we're the customer". I pointed out that as the customer they had already been discussing compilation errors, interfaces and object models so must be fairly technical as we're already 20 minutes into discussions.

So the feedback was that my presentation skills were lacking, ie that I'm the classic propeller hat wearing nerd that should never go near the customer. Odd that as a consultant I have to deal with customers all day long, but this seems lost on them.

I do feel that unless they give some better feedback, or come up with a less subjective test, they will be looking for Mr/Mrs right for longer than needs be.

Ho hum.

I reckon your lack of people skills made you fail to understand when the interviewers were playing the 'interviewer' role and when they were playing the 'stakeholder' role, in this little game.

There is a reason why tech guys sit in a dark corner and we business-focused folk are talking to the business.

[FatLazyContractor]

Fook me. They've certainly raised the bar for LIDLs.

Planning to apply? Don't! They won't like you.

[Old Greg]

The feedback was quite woolly really. This was a 2 step interview process, and the on site second stage was to be a "working interview". I thought some pairs programming or something.

In fact it was them firing technical questions at me for 1hr, then a test with some post it notes.

Apparently I aced the technical test (as did the previous unlucky candidate), and we both slipped up with the post it note test.

The post it note test involved them putting post it notes on the table in a random fashion, with words written on them like "fruit", "banana", "apple", "knife", "person", "cut".

Then I was told that they wanted to build an app to cut fruit, and I should arrange the post it notes "logically". So I asked if they were referring to an object hierarchy. The said this would do.

So I arranged the post it notes, and was then asked to embellish the object model so they could also juice fruit, as well a cut it. I was also asked to model it in such a way that would cause a "compilation error" if a fruit that was not cuttable, or juicable was passed to the person object for cutting or juicing.

I did this, and shan't bother you with the technicalities, but it involved interfaces.

Then some more questions, and I asked them how they would prefer it to be implemented, either by use of another interface, or by other means, and asked some questions to try and tease this out. At this point the guy puts his hands up in a "stop right there" fashion and says "we're not technical remember, we're the customer". I pointed out that as the customer they had already been discussing compilation errors, interfaces and object models so must be fairly technical as we're already 20 minutes into discussions.

So the feedback was that my presentation skills were lacking, ie that I'm the classic propeller hat wearing nerd that should never go near the customer. Odd that as a consultant I have to deal with customers all day long, but this seems lost on them.

I do feel that unless they give some better feedback, or come up with a less subjective test, they will be looking for Mr/Mrs right for longer than needs be.

Ho hum.

At least your lack of personal skills masked your lack or technical skills.