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Previously on "Brexit assistance from the middle east"

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  • WTFH
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    Big difference between taking the total votes for the country and splitting the country into blocks of, say 100,000

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    Except they don't.
    Let's imagine that there are 600 seats in parliament and 60 million people in the country, just to keep the maths simple.

    That would mean there is one MP per 100,000 people.
    London would have 85MPs
    Birmingham 11
    Leeds 8
    Sheffield 6
    Bradford 5
    Manchester 5
    Durham 5
    Liverpool 5

    Now, how many of those big cities are majority Tory voters?
    FactCheck: is the voting system rigged in favour of Labour?

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    On 2005 Blair got 35.2% of the vote and 355 seats.

    In 2015 Tories got 36.9% of the vote and 331 seats.

    Which is why the Tories want to standardise the size of a constituency.
    Except they don't.
    Let's imagine that there are 600 seats in parliament and 60 million people in the country, just to keep the maths simple.

    That would mean there is one MP per 100,000 people.
    London would have 85MPs
    Birmingham 11
    Leeds 8
    Sheffield 6
    Bradford 5
    Manchester 5
    Durham 5
    Liverpool 5

    Now, how many of those big cities are majority Tory voters?

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    On 2005 Blair got 35.2% of the vote and 355 seats.

    In 2015 Tories got 36.9% of the vote and 331 seats.

    Which is why the Tories want to standardise the size of a constituency.
    as pointed out once he was in he fiddled with the constituency areas so it was almost impossible for the Tories to win , surprised he didn't set fire to Parliament and declare himself Fuhrer.

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  • GB9
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    On 2005 Blair got 35.2% of the vote and 355 seats.

    In 2015 Tories got 36.9% of the vote and 331 seats.

    Which is why the Tories want to standardise the size of a constituency.

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  • VectraMan
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    What about 2001 and 2005? People obviously liked him otherwise they wouldn't have voted for him!
    Iain Duncan Smith and William Hague.

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  • NigelJK
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    Well, sick of all politicians - hence the coalition.
    And some thought that voting for more ,and more Bureaucracy, was a good idea.

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  • barrydidit
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    What about 2001 and 2005? People obviously liked him otherwise they wouldn't have voted for him!
    He had a majority of 179 (?) to start with. You've got to piss a LOT of people off to burn through that amount of political capital. It happened in the end, but it takes time.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
    Lots of people took great delight in the fall of the Tories at the time. Remember Portillo's face?

    Mostly the Tories lost because everyone was sick of them, just like everyone was sick of Labour by 2010.
    Well, sick of all politicians - hence the coalition.

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  • darmstadt
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    In 1997 there was a choice between a Tory government lead by John Major that had lots of in fighting over Europe and sex scandals that contradicted their back to basics policy, and Tony Blair leading a united Labour party.

    So it's not surprising people voted for the latter.
    What about 2001 and 2005? People obviously liked him otherwise they wouldn't have voted for him!

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  • barrydidit
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    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
    Lots of people took great delight in the fall of the Tories at the time. Remember Portillo's face?

    Mostly the Tories lost because everyone was sick of them, just like everyone was sick of Labour by 2010.
    ^ This.

    I expect this is what is written on Corbyn's masterplan for 2020.

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  • VectraMan
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    In 1997 there was a choice between a Tory government lead by John Major that had lots of in fighting over Europe and sex scandals that contradicted their back to basics policy, and Tony Blair leading a united Labour party.

    So it's not surprising people voted for the latter.
    Lots of people took great delight in the fall of the Tories at the time. Remember Portillo's face?

    Mostly the Tories lost because everyone was sick of them, just like everyone was sick of Labour by 2010.

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  • MrMarkyMark
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    Sweet , interesting comment below

    “Britain should keep all our options open” and goes on to insist that “is not an argument for another referendum”.

    He then adds: “Actually the people do have a right to change their mind, but that is not for now.

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  • NigelJK
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    So it's not surprising people voted for the latter.
    Well at least that's how the press/media reported it. Personally I thought that the Labour MP who wanted proof that his Mistress's child was his and not the Husbands via the courts in full publicity was more of a scandal then anything the Tories got up to.

    And no, a slightly left of center Labour party bought with the promise of going into Gvmt sickened me to the core. I remembered the lot before them and openly predicted a horrible mess by the end of the term. I didn't foresee the US poodle act though, but I did predict that we'd throw our lot in with the yanks when it wasn't our fight.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Are you saying that all those people that voted Tony Blair in, in 1997, were wrong? Can't be so. The winning vote is always right. Yay Brexit!
    In 1997 there was a choice between a Tory government lead by John Major that had lots of in fighting over Europe and sex scandals that contradicted their back to basics policy, and Tony Blair leading a united Labour party.

    So it's not surprising people voted for the latter.

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