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  • NigelJK
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    Why would I? I'm not the one who thinks Islam is evil. I have no interest in visiting Bradford anyway, there's too many Muslims there.
    FTFY

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  • GideonTheIdiot
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post

    Jihad means struggle, in whatever form that takes. ...
    Buddhism seems quite attractive as a faith by comparison, ...
    Buddhism 101

    All Life is Suffering

    Attractive or depressing? Judaeo-Christian-Islam all say life is good, an expression of the deity's purpose. Suffering has meaning, stuff is worth fighting for.

    Buddhism says the opposite.

    Life is meaningless, illusory, purposeless.

    Buddhism is explicitly atheist (non-theist ie there is no possibility of an overall order or creation by an independently existing being).

    The only "universal" law is Karma or Dependent Origination - you can take this one or leave it, basically, you're only here because of a chain of consequences, break the chain and that's Nirvana (extinction - removal from life that is suffering).

    Siddhartha Gottama said he dun this already ages ago ffs before jesus (who did exist but St Paul did his PR) and islam or wotever, so just get on with it start meditation asap.

    He would have liked the bit in the Gospels where Jesus says leave your home and family and money and get out in the desert and pray (meditate) until the world ends. He would find absurd the bit where Jesus makes a whip out of asses' tails and whips the money lenders out of the temple grounds - (why doesn't Jesus have compassion for the bankers, they are just doing their job? All anger is simply counter-productive in Buddhism)


    Anyway the point is, Buddhism is not as nice as you think it is, and it is interesting to understand why, because it might be right about some things.

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  • MrMarkyMark
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    Originally posted by Gumbo Robot View Post
    Yes, I've got an open invitation to visit Quetta from an old colleague of mine. He says his family will make me feel very welcome.

    Which is probably true but, well, you know....
    I'm sure you would be treated like a king.
    I traveled extensively around that region, I was always very well looked after.

    The situation was very different in the late 80's.

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  • Gumbo Robot
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    Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
    Its actually very beautiful in certain areas, but, of course you wouldn't know, because you haven't been.
    Unlike you, I have, always been dodgy in places, but was fine where I went, in the late eighties,.

    I went over on a camel, nice Opium and Charas there, so I'm told

    Yes, I've got an open invitation to visit Quetta from an old colleague of mine. He says his family will make me feel very welcome.

    Which is probably true but, well, you know....

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by seanraaron View Post
    Why would I? I'm not the one who thinks Islam is evil. I have no interest in visiting Pakistan anyway.
    Oh here we go, over-egging statements. I never said it was evil; it's a significantly flawed control mechanism.

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  • MrMarkyMark
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    Originally posted by seanraaron View Post
    There needs to be something to attract me to a place and there isn't anything there; the dodgy security services and instability of the democratic institutions is also a bit off-putting.
    Its actually very beautiful in certain areas, but, of course you wouldn't know, because you haven't been.
    Unlike you, I have, always been dodgy in places, but was fine where I went, in the late eighties,.

    I went over on a camel, nice Opium and Charas there, so I'm told

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  • seanraaron
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    There needs to be something to attract me to a place and there isn't anything there; the dodgy security services and instability of the democratic institutions is also a bit off-putting.

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  • MrMarkyMark
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    FTFY

    Originally posted by seanraaron View Post
    Why would I? I'm not the one who thinks Islam is evil. I have no interest in visiting Pakistan anyway, there's too many Muslims there.

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  • seanraaron
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    One went quiet, another shrugged and agreed (as he took into his bacon sandwich).

    Feel free to try the same in Islamabad and stay alive btw.
    Why would I? I'm not the one who thinks Islam is evil. I have no interest in visiting Pakistan anyway.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by seanraaron View Post
    So these "nice Muslims" I assume you've told them you think their religion is evil - still nice after that, are they?
    One went quiet, another shrugged and agreed (as he took into his bacon sandwich).

    Feel free to try the same in Islamabad and stay alive btw.

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  • seanraaron
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Not at all. I know a lot of nice Muslims. You're doing it again, blaming the players instead of the game.
    So these "nice Muslims" I assume you've told them you think their religion is evil - still nice after that, are they?

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by seanraaron View Post
    Some of my best friends are English too.
    No Scots?

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  • seanraaron
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Not at all. I know a lot of nice Muslims. You're doing it again, blaming the players instead of the game.
    Some of my best friends are English too.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Talk me through this one:
    The Christians held in Thailand after fleeing Pakistan - BBC News

    Religion of peace don't ya know.
    Those mean Buddhists refusing to give fleeing Christians asylum from those evil Muslims


    Is that better?

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by seanraaron View Post
    I assume the only acceptable response is "all Muslims are evil" - will that work for you?
    Not at all. I know a lot of nice Muslims. You're doing it again, blaming the players instead of the game.

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