Reply to: Pope Trumps Trump in Idiotic Statement Stakes

[vetran]

From an establishment that seeks to cover up paedo priests in it's midst, and their attempts to prevent the use of contraception in Africa causing needless deaths mean they're hardly in a place to call the moral high ground

Even for a wazzock like Trump

they have actually relaxed that under this Pope, so I actually think he is trying. He announced the same for Zika.

Unfortunately in one corner we have a nutter who believes in himself only and the other who believes in all powerful benevolent being who stood by and watched the Inquisition & the holocaust.

[seanraaron]

Still Trump did come out with a profound retort:



******* nutter...

I hope he starts referring to himself in the third person in debates and speeches, that would be awesome.

[SueEllen]

Nice soundbite, but utter rubbish. There are only 26 of them + 1 who happens to be a Rabbi. Hardly a majority. Perhaps a very small influence. But certainly they can't vote down a bill all by themselves.

You misinterpreted me.

Didn't help I quoted the wrong person and couldn't be bothered to correct it.

All those complaining about religion in politics don't need to look very far.

[darmstadt]

Still Trump did come out with a profound retort:

In a press release timed to coincide with his rally, Trump suggested that the leader of the Catholic church would regret not supporting his candidacy. “If and when the Vatican is attacked by Isis, which as everyone knows is Isis’s ultimate trophy,” Trump said, “the pope can have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been president because this would not have happened.

******* nutter...

[NotAllThere]

...This people can vote down bills passed to them by the House of Commons.

Nice soundbite, but utter rubbish. There are only 26 of them + 1 who happens to be a Rabbi. Hardly a majority. Perhaps a very small influence. But certainly they can't vote down a bill all by themselves.

What are you after?

1. Complete abolition so there's no check on the government?
2. Removal of anyone who holds religious office from the HoL? (Currently 26 Bishops and 1 Rabbi)
3. Partial democratisation?
4. Full democratisation?

Apart from option 1, the HoL will still be able to vote down government bills. But of course, the HoC can force them through anyway, so what's the problem?

Which of the defeats listed here do you think were bad things?

[Flashman]

Pope attacks WASPs and backs Catholic Mexicans. SHOCKER.

[clearedforlanding]

A big ******* wall preventing access to the Vatican? Let's see!

More like low railings than a wall: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@41.90...7i13312!8i6656

Or there's this bit down the road, which is a bit like a wall but with big gaps in: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@41.90...7i13312!8i6656

Up the road there's definitely some walls, but only because there are buildings which they presumably didn't want to leave open to the elements. Oh, and there's a big open gate: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@41.90...7i13312!8i6656

Finally, a wall! It's round the back by the museum: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@41.90...7i13312!8i6656

So you should find it quite easy to get in. Rather like the Mexican border, whether Trump builds his ridiculous wall or not

Go for it. I'll buy you a ticket if you would be so kind as to record the Swiss Guards watching you stroll around the gardens.

[clearedforlanding]

I've noticed that The Lords have more common sense than the Parliament.

Well in fairness, by default they are because they are mostly fast asleep. They can do less damage that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Run3XHe-XoQ

[AtW]

their attempts to prevent the use of contraception in Africa causing needless deaths

It apparently follows from their religion... what did you expect - rational science based approach?

At least they are not calling for crusades anymore and don't send the Spanish Inquisition after you ...

[MicrosoftBob]

Dunno. I wasn't really thinking about the precise details of walls anyway, as it's quite obvious that the Pope was using the wall as a metaphor for the deep spiritual corruption, incomprehension of basic social morality, and wholehearted embrace of selfish greed embodied by Trump, his believers, and the foul policies springing from hatred of others that he espouses.

From an establishment that seeks to cover up paedo priests in it's midst, and their attempts to prevent the use of contraception in Africa causing needless deaths mean they're hardly in a place to call the moral high ground

Even for a wazzock like Trump

[NickFitz]

Is that easy access so that the Cardinals can smuggle enough children in easily ?

Dunno. I wasn't really thinking about the precise details of walls anyway, as it's quite obvious that the Pope was using the wall as a metaphor for the deep spiritual corruption, incomprehension of basic social morality, and wholehearted embrace of selfish greed embodied by Trump, his believers, and the foul policies springing from hatred of others that he espouses.

[MicrosoftBob]

A big ******* wall preventing access to the Vatican? Let's see!

More like low railings than a wall: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@41.90...7i13312!8i6656

Or there's this bit down the road, which is a bit like a wall but with big gaps in: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@41.90...7i13312!8i6656

Up the road there's definitely some walls, but only because there are buildings which they presumably didn't want to leave open to the elements. Oh, and there's a big open gate: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@41.90...7i13312!8i6656

Finally, a wall! It's round the back by the museum: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@41.90...7i13312!8i6656

So you should find it quite easy to get in. Rather like the Mexican border, whether Trump builds his ridiculous wall or not

Is that easy access so that the Cardinals can smuggle enough children in easily ?

[AtW]

Haven't you noticed the Anglican bishops and archbishops plus the rabbi in the House of Lords yet?
This people can vote down bills passed to them by the House of Commons.

I've noticed that The Lords have more common sense than the Parliament.

It's high time for Her Majesty to stop this so-called experimental democratic malarkey ...

[SueEllen]

I don't mind if religion is involved in politics, what I mind is religion directing suicide bombers blowing people up for political purposes...

Haven't you noticed the Anglican bishops and archbishops plus the rabbi in the House of Lords yet?

This people can vote down bills passed to them by the House of Commons.

[AtW]

And the message is sent out to the competing religions that it is fine for religion to get involved in politics.

I don't mind if religion is involved in politics, what I mind is religion directing suicide bombers blowing people up for political purposes...