Reply to: GoldenEye international - nice little scam going!

[greenlake]

I've got mates terrified that their wives will find out that they've been to lapdancing places on rugby tours.

Anyone whos ever been there (not that Im a frequent visitor but I have been when tanked up for a laugh) will know the chances of any proper "action" there are nil.

[psychocandy]

Think PC is talking about the 'gentlemens clubs' rather than torrents, once his JSA is paid into his bank account of course

Yes lol. Cant get many lappies from JSA though. Got to be fair, I think I'd rather spend £20 on beer.

[TheFaQQer]

Think PC is talking about the 'gentlemens clubs' rather than torrents, once his JSA is paid into his bank account of course

I only skim the posts

[SlipTheJab]

When you were tanked up, for a laugh, you switched on your laptop, searched for a torrent site, opened uTorrent, downloaded the torrent file, waited for the porn to download and then watched it. I can see how one might do that

Think PC is talking about the 'gentlemens clubs' rather than torrents, once his JSA is paid into his bank account of course

[TheFaQQer]

(not that Im a frequent visitor but I have been when tanked up for a laugh)

When you were tanked up, for a laugh, you switched on your laptop, searched for a torrent site, opened uTorrent, downloaded the torrent file, waited for the porn to download and then watched it. I can see how one might do that

[psychocandy]

I had a poke around with the Ltd Co/s and directors of Goldeneye. Their accounts don’t add up either. I suspect their day will come.

Yep they know this too. Eventually someone will put a stop to it. But for now there are many people who crap themselves and cough up the £500.

How many people out there are married to spouses who would literally divorce them if they got accused of downloading porn? I've got mates terrified that their wives will find out that they've been to lapdancing places on rugby tours.

Anyone whos ever been there (not that Im a frequent visitor but I have been when tanked up for a laugh) will know the chances of any proper "action" there are nil. Touch the dancers and you WILL get a good kicking out the back.

Told me Mrs once and she just laughed and called me sad. OK Im sad.

[Paddy]

The wheels of justice are moving... https://popehat.com/2016/12/16/the-p...deral-charges/

It's not GoldenEye, but it is the same scam.

The indictment charges Hansmeier and Steele with a raft of federal crimes: conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud, mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering, and conspiracy to suborn perjury in federal court. As usual, if you count up the statutory maximum sentence for all of these crimes, you get a ridiculous number that bears no relation to the probable sentences they face if convicted. However, given the amounts discussed in the indictment, they are facing years in federal prison.

I had a poke around with the Ltd Co/s and directors of Goldeneye. Their accounts don’t add up either. I suspect their day will come.

[Uncle Albert]

The wheels of justice are moving... https://popehat.com/2016/12/16/the-p...deral-charges/

It's not GoldenEye, but it is the same scam.

[SueEllen]

But Goldeneye will never go to court for two reasons:-

1. Its hassle and there are plenty of easy targets who will cough up £300 after, maybe, one letter. Cost them very little outlay to do this and they know what percent will pay up.

2. If they risk going to court and lose, then it'll potentially screw up the good thing they've got going from (1).

So how does someone drag them to court?

[psychocandy]

But Goldeneye will never go to court for two reasons:-

1. Its hassle and there are plenty of easy targets who will cough up £300 after, maybe, one letter. Cost them very little outlay to do this and they know what percent will pay up.

2. If they risk going to court and lose, then it'll potentially screw up the good thing they've got going from (1).

[NotAllThere]

I believe the correct terminology is "on the balance of probabilities".

[Paddy]

If it's a civil case the claimant has to prove there is a good probability the individual did illegally download the material.

If it's a criminal case the claimant has to prove without reasonable doubt the individual did illegally download the material.

As Goldeneye are using the civil courts you don't have to have done the actual act there just needs to be sufficient evidence to convince the judge you very likely did do it. In other words I agree with Mr Judgment.

Sorry, you're way off legally. The claimant has to prove that an individual (who may or may not be the account holder) illegally downloaded content to which the claimant holds copyright. If they can't prove that, they will lose. Oh, and for Christ's sake, learn how to spell judgement

Both spellings are correct but the courts mainly use Judgment
<mod snip>

[Mordac]

If it's a civil case the claimant has to prove there is a good probability the individual did illegally download the material.

If it's a criminal case the claimant has to prove without reasonable doubt the individual did illegally download the material.

As Goldeneye are using the civil courts you don't have to have done the actual act there just needs to be sufficient evidence to convince the judge you very likely did do it. In other words I agree with Mr Judgment.

Good probability isn't good enough. And you can't bloody well spell, either.

[SlipTheJab]

If it's a civil case the claimant has to prove there is a good probability the individual did illegally download the material.

If it's a criminal case the claimant has to prove without reasonable doubt the individual did illegally download the material.

As Goldeneye are using the civil courts you don't have to have done the actual act there just needs to be sufficient evidence to convince the judge you very likely did do it. In other words I agree with Mr Judgment.

Time to call the 'Judge' in, paging NLUK...

[SueEllen]

Sorry, you're way off legally. The claimant has to prove that an individual (who may or may not be the account holder) illegally downloaded content to which the claimant holds copyright. If they can't prove that, they will lose.

If it's a civil case the claimant has to prove there is a good probability the individual did illegally download the material.

If it's a criminal case the claimant has to prove without reasonable doubt the individual did illegally download the material.

As Goldeneye are using the civil courts you don't have to have done the actual act there just needs to be sufficient evidence to convince the judge you very likely did do it. In other words I agree with Mr Judgment.