Reply to: Perm - Hmmm How much tax?????

[northernladuk]

I don't really think that's too mercenary - two years is fairly normal. Anyone with half a clue will know that any contractor they take will always have a different view on being permie to others - namely that there's always a way out. If I wind up getting an offer and accepting I'll be putting my warchest to one side, keeping my "must pay" monthly outgoings as they are and treating permiedom as a safe boom

Indeed. This job for life mantra is dead and buried. You might stay with a company awhile but you shouldn't assume you can do the same job for a long period of time anymore even if you wanted to stay permie for the rest of your life. That's why I believe I have more job security as a contractor than as a permie.

[vwdan]

Good point lol.

Bit mercenary but I was thinking,hmmm if theres training on offer, do it for a year or two then bail back to contracting.

I don't really think that's too mercenary - two years is fairly normal. Anyone with half a clue will know that any contractor they take will always have a different view on being permie to others - namely that there's always a way out. If I wind up getting an offer and accepting I'll be putting my warchest to one side, keeping my "must pay" monthly outgoings as they are and treating permiedom as a safe boom

[vetran]

You are assuming it will be worth contracting in two years......

he is getting in early while there are still some good permie jobs.

[northernladuk]

Good point lol.

Bit mercenary but I was thinking,hmmm if theres training on offer, do it for a year or two then bail back to contracting.

You are assuming it will be worth contracting in two years......

[psychocandy]

Don't forget all the extra sick days per year, when the weather turns sunny, or you can't be bothered to go in because of a hangover

Good point lol.

Bit mercenary but I was thinking,hmmm if theres training on offer, do it for a year or two then bail back to contracting.

[MicrosoftBob]

Don't forget all the extra sick days per year, when the weather turns sunny, or you can't be bothered to go in because of a hangover

[AtW]

Or even if you live in one with an extradition treaty. They can extradite you and put you in prison - but they can't get at the money.

What they can do is promise your cell mate Bubba early release if he plays the ball...

[Platypus]

However PermieCo. are giving me the opurtunity of career advancement by making me redundant.

Congratulations! Free at last!

[VectraMan]

I've never received any training as a permie.

However PermieCo. are giving me the opurtunity of career advancement by making me redundant.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Training and opportunity for career advancement......

That's why i went contracting. Never received a single day's training in 8 years as a permie, at 3 different employers.

[psychocandy]

Will you be able to sign on during your paid holidays

Now that would be good - or ESA or PIP maybe?

[PurpleGorilla]

Dear wife is back to work in another role for now. Not in the best health but shes not going to get better so we'll see how it goes.

Possibly another reason why a local job would be better for me. At the moment, Im miles away with no WFH ever. Hassle with childcare at times it will be.

Get a local permie job, for the security,

[NotAllThere]

It is if you live in a country with no extradition treaty to the UK.

Or even if you live in one with an extradition treaty. They can extradite you and put you in prison - but they can't get at the money.

[FiveTimes]

Will you be able to sign on during your paid holidays

[vwdan]

+ it sounds like less travel time, cheaper commute, less time away from home

This is why I'm considering it - I still love contracting, but the salary they're looking at isn't a million miles way from 10 months work and it'll hopefully mean a lot more time at home. Given that my August work fell through last week and I've already got a couple of weeks scrubbed out for proper holidays the thought of sitting back and having the money fall into my bank account each and every month is kind of appealing. Yes I could earn more on a good year and I could absolutely sweep up if I got a decent rate close to home, but the reality is that most of work means travel and hotels.

Remember, as well, PS that the £3500 is post all tax. Once I took into account the reality of my utilisation time and then hitting the upper tax bracket it actually looked a lot closer.